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I'd love to see a lot more written about this and more sites analysed. I'm guessing Reddit and Digg took off not such much because they are personally useful

I'd love to see a lot more written about this and more sites analysed. I'm guessing Reddit and Digg took off not such much because they are personally useful without other people there but because news is something that is constant, compelling, frequent, neverending and you could literally hang out there all day finding good information. Where as sites that are attempting to do the cold start and involve something like reviews and recommendations on restaurants or other services that you only have need to look up occasionally would have a much harder time getting going without being personally useful in any way. There seems to be a lot of sites attempting that these days. Anyone know some good tricks for overcoming this?

adsyoung 19y ago
Thinking about this a little bit more I can think of perhaps 3 ways a social network site can make a start: 1. People use it for its personal value and network value is built as a side effect. (del.icio.us, youtube, google, flickr, amazon). 2. The idea is so compelling people directly contribute to the network value (reddit, digg, wikipedia). 3. You initially populate your site with so much data that its immediately useful. What have I missed or gotten wrong?
- mechanical_fish 19y ago
  I'd argue that reddit, digg, and wikipedia had enough data to be useful even when they only had 1 user. A single-user reddit is indistinguishable from a blog, but plenty of blogs are useful. Another way to start your social network is to gradually borrow someone else's. Youtube was immediately useful because links to Youtube videos could be emailed to friends and/or embedded in blogs and other social networks. The site played well with others, which eventually encouraged all blog readers, emailers, and MySpace users to start visiting Youtube directly. You left out the super-secret invitation-only beta site method, where your first users don't mind the bare walls and the empty pages because they're so excited about being in on the ground floor of a New World-Changing Venture. After your first 10 users put in some data, you let the next 10 in. After you've got enough data that the site seems useful you start marketing in earnest. A variation is the Craigslist method: use geography to your advantage. Start by building a Craigslist for your office building, then expand to your neighborhood, then your city, and eventually conquer the world. But this might just be a special case of point (1).

adsyoung 19y ago

Thinking about this a little bit more I can think of perhaps 3 ways a social network site can make a start: 1. People use it for its personal value and network value is built as a side effect. (del.icio.us, youtube, google, flickr, amazon). 2. The idea is so compelling people directly contribute to the network value (reddit, digg, wikipedia). 3. You initially populate your site with so much data that its immediately useful. What have I missed or gotten wrong?

mechanical_fish 19y ago
I'd argue that reddit, digg, and wikipedia had enough data to be useful even when they only had 1 user. A single-user reddit is indistinguishable from a blog, but plenty of blogs are useful. Another way to start your social network is to gradually borrow someone else's. Youtube was immediately useful because links to Youtube videos could be emailed to friends and/or embedded in blogs and other social networks. The site played well with others, which eventually encouraged all blog readers, emailers, and MySpace users to start visiting Youtube directly. You left out the super-secret invitation-only beta site method, where your first users don't mind the bare walls and the empty pages because they're so excited about being in on the ground floor of a New World-Changing Venture. After your first 10 users put in some data, you let the next 10 in. After you've got enough data that the site seems useful you start marketing in earnest. A variation is the Craigslist method: use geography to your advantage. Start by building a Craigslist for your office building, then expand to your neighborhood, then your city, and eventually conquer the world. But this might just be a special case of point (1).