> Now I need to write a dockerfile, loads of manifests, know about ingresses, use whatever custom tooling and abstractions they've built on top of the cloud pro

> Now I need to write a dockerfile, loads of manifests, know about ingresses, use whatever custom tooling and abstractions they've built on top of the cloud provider. Doesn’t sound like there’s a whole lot of platform engineering here. The general aim for a platform engineering team should be a UI/CLI that allows a dev to get a new service into production in minutes. Metrics, tracing, monitoring, alert routing, logging, DB, CI/CD, service/RPC stubs etc all done for you so you can get to writing code fast and not worry about the tower of complexity underlying all of this.