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Because most people won't: - it's expensive - it takes their phone away If changing the battery is a one hour cheap deal, a lot more people may do it. And I

Because most people won't: - it's expensive - it takes their phone away If changing the battery is a one hour cheap deal, a lot more people may do it. And I am very happy about those EU initiatives: this way I know what sites are tracking me and how much. This tells me which sites values annoying me with their banner so they can sell my data. Have you noticed there is no banner on Hacker news despite the fact that: - they serve in Europe - they use cookies That's because it's not about cookies, and the banner is only for privacy abusers.

f6v 3y ago
> Because most people won't: > - it's expensive > - it takes their phone away Ok, people don’t go to shops to replace battery now? “oh, it’s 99$ to replace the battery? I’d rather pay 1000$ for a new iPhone!” That’s a bit silly.
- cbg0 3y ago
  Most people don't have a $1000 iphone, which is even more problematic, because if you have a cheaper $3-400 phone, that $99 replacement would be very expensive.
  - arepublicadoceu 3y ago
    Exactly this! I keep seeing this nonsense that a $70/99 store replacement battery is a great cheap deal. Yeap, only compared to a brand new phone. When you have a cheap iPhone from 5 years ago and you compare the price of a battery replacement to the actual price of your phone it quickly become obnoxiously expensive.
theshrike79 3y ago
Expensive? It’s like 50-70€ to swap an iPhone battery and you get a warranty for the battery. There’s no way a user-swappable battery will be cheaper than that.
- leptons 3y ago
  Back when phones had replaceable batteries they were nowhere near 50-70€. Half that, if that much.
  - theshrike79 3y ago
    They were also really tiny capacity-wise.
- ascorbic 3y ago
  There you go. Half the price https://www.ifixit.com/products/iphone-8-replacement-battery?variant=39371996659815 https://www.ifixit.com/products/iphone-8-replacement-battery...
tzs 3y ago
In the US having a battery replaced at a shop is cheap and you can probably find a place that will do it in less than an hour. There are a few nationwide chains of third-parties that do it, plus numerous independent local repair places. As far as HN goes it is not clear whether or not they are covered by GDPR. Yes, the site is viewable in Europe and people there can make accounts. But that's not sufficient. GDPR asserts extraterritorial jurisdiction when you are either (1) offering goods and services in the Union or (2) monitoring the behavior of data subjects in the Union that takes place in the Union. One of the recitals clarifies that the mere availability of a site to Europeans does not necessarily mean it is offering goods and services in the Union. The site has to envisage serving people in the Union.
fullspectrumdev 3y ago
You are probably the first poster I’ve seen in here who “gets it” about the cookie banners If you aren’t being a bastard, you don’t need to show me a banner.

f6v 3y ago

> Because most people won't: > - it's expensive > - it takes their phone away Ok, people don’t go to shops to replace battery now? “oh, it’s 99$ to replace the battery? I’d rather pay 1000$ for a new iPhone!” That’s a bit silly.

cbg0 3y ago
Most people don't have a $1000 iphone, which is even more problematic, because if you have a cheaper $3-400 phone, that $99 replacement would be very expensive.
- arepublicadoceu 3y ago
  Exactly this! I keep seeing this nonsense that a $70/99 store replacement battery is a great cheap deal. Yeap, only compared to a brand new phone. When you have a cheap iPhone from 5 years ago and you compare the price of a battery replacement to the actual price of your phone it quickly become obnoxiously expensive.

theshrike79 3y ago

Expensive? It’s like 50-70€ to swap an iPhone battery and you get a warranty for the battery. There’s no way a user-swappable battery will be cheaper than that.

leptons 3y ago
Back when phones had replaceable batteries they were nowhere near 50-70€. Half that, if that much.
- theshrike79 3y ago
  They were also really tiny capacity-wise.
ascorbic 3y ago
There you go. Half the price https://www.ifixit.com/products/iphone-8-replacement-battery?variant=39371996659815 https://www.ifixit.com/products/iphone-8-replacement-battery...

tzs 3y ago

In the US having a battery replaced at a shop is cheap and you can probably find a place that will do it in less than an hour. There are a few nationwide chains of third-parties that do it, plus numerous independent local repair places. As far as HN goes it is not clear whether or not they are covered by GDPR. Yes, the site is viewable in Europe and people there can make accounts. But that's not sufficient. GDPR asserts extraterritorial jurisdiction when you are either (1) offering goods and services in the Union or (2) monitoring the behavior of data subjects in the Union that takes place in the Union. One of the recitals clarifies that the mere availability of a site to Europeans does not necessarily mean it is offering goods and services in the Union. The site has to envisage serving people in the Union.

fullspectrumdev 3y ago

You are probably the first poster I’ve seen in here who “gets it” about the cookie banners If you aren’t being a bastard, you don’t need to show me a banner.