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Yep, and the subscription provides so much more than RHEL... it gives a lot. A small sampling of product entitlements: * RHEL * RHEL EUS (stick on a minor ver

by mroche 3y ago

Yep, and the subscription provides so much more than RHEL... it gives a lot. A small sampling of product entitlements: * RHEL * RHEL EUS (stick on a minor version for 2 years) * Ansible Automation Platform * A slew of Red Hat middleware solutions

justinclift 3y ago
RHEL aside, are any of those not based upon OSS projects that people could use without needing RH anyway? Or is the value in being able to access the documentation for things, which is behind a login-wall these days?
- mroche 3y ago
  The only aspect I would be iffy on (mainly because I've never looked) are the things you get just for being a Red Hat subscription holder. These are the Red Hat hosted services, like the Customer Portal and Hybrid Cloud Console (Insights, etc). But the actual products you get from the subscriptions? Yeah, those are all open source software with available upstream. As for value, the hosted stuff is actually pretty cool and helpful for getting proactive analysis, suggestions, alerts, etc of your environments. In general using the Red Hat product over the upstream provides a handful of benefits. Usually the software is pretty well stabilized, you're not getting random updates that require massive changes. Deployment can also be easier than upstream, or at least better documented. For example, deploying and maintaining AAP is a breeze, and can be done on traditional servers instead of k8s. It provides all the disparate pieces in one place, rather than needing you to deploy AWX, Galaxy-ng, Pinakes, Keycloak, etc on your own manually. The other non-software pieces, like the knowledge base, discussions, docs, hosted apps, etc are all effectively bonus material of a sort. But they are really good bonus material to have.
- kriberg 3y ago
  RedHat creates and drives development of many OSS projects. FreeIPA, strimzi, systemd are some examples. Anybody can use these projects without using the RedHat labeled version. But none of this projects would be well maintained without RedHat.

by mroche 3y ago

justinclift 3y ago

RHEL aside, are any of those not based upon OSS projects that people could use without needing RH anyway? Or is the value in being able to access the documentation for things, which is behind a login-wall these days?

mroche 3y ago
The only aspect I would be iffy on (mainly because I've never looked) are the things you get just for being a Red Hat subscription holder. These are the Red Hat hosted services, like the Customer Portal and Hybrid Cloud Console (Insights, etc). But the actual products you get from the subscriptions? Yeah, those are all open source software with available upstream. As for value, the hosted stuff is actually pretty cool and helpful for getting proactive analysis, suggestions, alerts, etc of your environments. In general using the Red Hat product over the upstream provides a handful of benefits. Usually the software is pretty well stabilized, you're not getting random updates that require massive changes. Deployment can also be easier than upstream, or at least better documented. For example, deploying and maintaining AAP is a breeze, and can be done on traditional servers instead of k8s. It provides all the disparate pieces in one place, rather than needing you to deploy AWX, Galaxy-ng, Pinakes, Keycloak, etc on your own manually. The other non-software pieces, like the knowledge base, discussions, docs, hosted apps, etc are all effectively bonus material of a sort. But they are really good bonus material to have.
kriberg 3y ago
RedHat creates and drives development of many OSS projects. FreeIPA, strimzi, systemd are some examples. Anybody can use these projects without using the RedHat labeled version. But none of this projects would be well maintained without RedHat.