You: Yet the majority of the normal users (220M+) on Twitter took a look at Mastodon, tried it, left and never looked back again. Me: Absurdly false. You: Exa

You: Yet the majority of the normal users (220M+) on Twitter took a look at Mastodon, tried it, left and never looked back again. Me: Absurdly false. You: Exactly. This is truly an insane "discussion". > I already said that in my first comment, but perhaps you finally decided to read what the actual problem is. > You can be opposed to it, but that won't stop the further centralization and Instagram's dominance in the 'Fediverse', already being compromised in the process especially when they are already winning. I already read this in the linked article: "if Meta joins the Fediverse, Meta will be the only one winning. In fact, reactions show that they are already winning". You've added absolutely nothing new or enlightening. > Seems to me that this other commenter is interested in how many users are regular, i.e 'non-technical' and also signed up to Mastodon. You have no idea either way. > For 'normal users', it is seen as the 'alternative' to Twitter. During the #TwitterMigration of 2022 and even before Elon acquired the company. I suspect that most weren't even aware of its existence. > 'Significant' is 1.2 million MAU Yes. > when compared to 450M MAUs still sitting on Twitter? I don't feel the need to compare. > especially when you are still unable to show verifiable data around Mastodon daily active users. I don't know whether that data is even collected. I'm not responsible for Mastodon data collection. > Henceforth, the majority of Twitter's users don't care I don't care. > I do not need to cite, since you already know you were part of the 'everyone' camp who was talking about Twitter's collapse on HN. I don't know any such thing, because it's false. I do know that your accusation against me here is in gross violation of the HN guidelines, and I also know that this discussion is becoming extremely tedious and futile, so let's just end it now. One more thing though: Nobody is trapped on Twitter. They don't need Mastodon or any Twitter alternative to "rescue" them. Mastodon didn't "fail" them. If they want to leave, they can simply stop using Twitter and spend their free time in another way. I'm old enough that the majority of my life predated the existence of Twitter, and it was fine.