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Prigozhin apparently has a wife and children in Russia. Who, according to standard web sources, are deeply entrenched in Russian society and big business. Ther

Prigozhin apparently has a wife and children in Russia. Who, according to standard web sources, are deeply entrenched in Russian society and big business. There need not be complex political chess boards behind this move. Putin could simply have told his former friend that his choices were (1) leave, or (2) bye-bye family.

Shaanie 3y ago
So Prigozhin just forgot about his family before starting the fight? Or didn't think anyone would think to threaten his family? Seems very unlikely to me.
- crtified 3y ago
  Perhaps at one time I'd have called the entire situation unlikely, on many levels. But we're talking about brinkmanship in a decades-old personal relationship between two individuals (Prig. & Put.) whose senses of context and honour patently are warped by ordinary standards, as evidenced by their past and ongoing actions. It seems not at all far fetched to me that, in such a strange relationship, each others personal family would be seen as sacrosanct... up to a point.
hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
There's one problem with that explanation. If Prigozhin thought that his family was at risk, or if he cared, he had all the information before he attacked. Why then attack, only to then have the obvious move used on you?
- crtified 3y ago
  He specifically avoided criticising Putin himself, assuming that his long personal ties, friendship and deep trust with Putin would leave his family sacrosanct. His attacks were on underlings. This sort of thing plays out in the corporate world too. That is, a fairly senior OG person who isn't the actual boss has a breakdown or burnout, and takes it out by sending long scathing emails-to-all-staff, complaints to directors, etc, "secure" in the assumption that they're just playing out some long standing internal issues and that things will be put right. Sometimes it doesn't quite work out as hoped, and that person finds to their surprise that their removal is the outcome.

Shaanie 3y ago

So Prigozhin just forgot about his family before starting the fight? Or didn't think anyone would think to threaten his family? Seems very unlikely to me.

crtified 3y ago
Perhaps at one time I'd have called the entire situation unlikely, on many levels. But we're talking about brinkmanship in a decades-old personal relationship between two individuals (Prig. & Put.) whose senses of context and honour patently are warped by ordinary standards, as evidenced by their past and ongoing actions. It seems not at all far fetched to me that, in such a strange relationship, each others personal family would be seen as sacrosanct... up to a point.

hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago

There's one problem with that explanation. If Prigozhin thought that his family was at risk, or if he cared, he had all the information before he attacked. Why then attack, only to then have the obvious move used on you?

crtified 3y ago
He specifically avoided criticising Putin himself, assuming that his long personal ties, friendship and deep trust with Putin would leave his family sacrosanct. His attacks were on underlings. This sort of thing plays out in the corporate world too. That is, a fairly senior OG person who isn't the actual boss has a breakdown or burnout, and takes it out by sending long scathing emails-to-all-staff, complaints to directors, etc, "secure" in the assumption that they're just playing out some long standing internal issues and that things will be put right. Sometimes it doesn't quite work out as hoped, and that person finds to their surprise that their removal is the outcome.