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> The reporting by traditional media had a lot of „not independently confirmed“ details. Because (US) foreign correspondence is a hollow shell of itself. http

> The reporting by traditional media had a lot of „not independently confirmed“ details. Because (US) foreign correspondence is a hollow shell of itself. https://twitter.com/ChrisBuryNews/status/1672410476364300288?s=20 https://twitter.com/ChrisBuryNews/status/1672410476364300288... > At @abc we had foreign bureaus in Beijing, Beirut, Berlin, Cairo, Frankfort, Hong Kong, Johannesburg, London, Moscow, Paris, Rome, Tel Aviv and Tokyo. > Only London is left.

ivan_gammel 3y ago
No, not because of this. I’m not from the Default Country and work with Russian sources directly. It would not be unusual to see this in any Western media (e.g.German or British) reporting on a subject in a foreign country. It was unusual to see it in local news.
nocoiner 3y ago
My dad was in newspapers. He worked at all types, everywhere from medium sized cities in the south and Midwest to big cities on the east coast (up to and including the New York Times). During that era (last quarter of the 20th century), every one of those papers (not just the NYT) had a significant foreign presence. That list above of ABC bureaus - the foreign bureaus for a national broadcast network - is not that much more longer than the list of foreign bureaus for an average newspaper with a circulation of 300k-500k. I recall one of my dad’s papers in the ‘80s having bureaus in Moscow, Bombay, Karachi, London, Jerusalem… surely also places like Rome, Paris and Tokyo. I think those are all gone now. That’s a lot of news gathering that’s just gone.
- Ntrails 3y ago
  > That’s a lot of news gathering that’s just gone. Yeah, but now we can cut and paste tweets as independent sources so it's ok
  - nocoiner 3y ago
    And for a brief moment, the shareholders realized a lot of value.
mensetmanusman 3y ago
The tech revolution took all the old media profits, there are no good income sources to support media at scale anymore.
- mozman 3y ago
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isignal 3y ago
Reuters and associated press have very good presence in most countries. Many American news reports use their reports.
- alephnerd 3y ago
  A lot of that is because Reuters, AP, and Bloomberg have a pretty strong backbench of freelancer journalists globally, which helps them with sourcing international news. Most news in general has been financialized because margins are very low, leading to everyone depending on wire services for 80-90% of all reporting. Take a look at articles on both CNN and Fox, both will source 80-90% of their articles from the same wire services and add a sprinkle of commentary+opinion.

ivan_gammel 3y ago

No, not because of this. I’m not from the Default Country and work with Russian sources directly. It would not be unusual to see this in any Western media (e.g.German or British) reporting on a subject in a foreign country. It was unusual to see it in local news.

nocoiner 3y ago

My dad was in newspapers. He worked at all types, everywhere from medium sized cities in the south and Midwest to big cities on the east coast (up to and including the New York Times). During that era (last quarter of the 20th century), every one of those papers (not just the NYT) had a significant foreign presence. That list above of ABC bureaus - the foreign bureaus for a national broadcast network - is not that much more longer than the list of foreign bureaus for an average newspaper with a circulation of 300k-500k. I recall one of my dad’s papers in the ‘80s having bureaus in Moscow, Bombay, Karachi, London, Jerusalem… surely also places like Rome, Paris and Tokyo. I think those are all gone now. That’s a lot of news gathering that’s just gone.

Ntrails 3y ago
> That’s a lot of news gathering that’s just gone. Yeah, but now we can cut and paste tweets as independent sources so it's ok
- nocoiner 3y ago
  And for a brief moment, the shareholders realized a lot of value.

mensetmanusman 3y ago

The tech revolution took all the old media profits, there are no good income sources to support media at scale anymore.

mozman 3y ago
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isignal 3y ago

Reuters and associated press have very good presence in most countries. Many American news reports use their reports.

alephnerd 3y ago
A lot of that is because Reuters, AP, and Bloomberg have a pretty strong backbench of freelancer journalists globally, which helps them with sourcing international news. Most news in general has been financialized because margins are very low, leading to everyone depending on wire services for 80-90% of all reporting. Take a look at articles on both CNN and Fox, both will source 80-90% of their articles from the same wire services and add a sprinkle of commentary+opinion.