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> - deal was supposrdly negotiated by a widely disrespected Lukashenko, not by Putin. Lukashenko is Putin's puppet; Putin couldn't negotiate in first person wi

> - deal was supposrdly negotiated by a widely disrespected Lukashenko, not by Putin. Lukashenko is Putin's puppet; Putin couldn't negotiate in first person without appearing as weak. It's possible that both Prigozhin and Putin tested their own strength and concluded that they both can be hurt badly. I believe that we'll know more by looking at what will happen to Shoigu and Gerasimov in the next days.

troupo 3y ago
> Lukashenko is Putin's puppet; Putin couldn't negotiate in first person without appearing as weak. Ah yes, instead it was negotiated by the unpopular ridiculed Lukashenko everyone views as a clown. This makes Putin seem strong. Also strong: Putin in the morning: these traitors will be brought to justice, I authorize Ministry of Defence to use any means possible. I give you my word. Putin in the evening: we drop all charges against this military coup (who also killed at least 12 soldiers furing their march on Moscow), and I give my word the Prigozhin can just go to Belarus. So strong. It's funny how putinophiles will try to contort reality to a ridiculous degree to find an angle to prove Putin is a superhuman playing 12-dimensional chess. Now imagine any Western leader doing the same, and how you would ridicule them.
- squarefoot 3y ago
  I didn't write that Putin's image was being strengthened by having Lukashenko act as puppet, the point is that he had to choose between being weakened or weakened and ridiculed. Also, in the same context they granted impunity to all Wagner soldiers; this must come from Putin, not Lukashenko, which has zero power in Russian affairs. Moreover, note that the two Russian officials shown talking with Prigozhin in Rostov are Shoigu's #2 and Gerasimov #2. They didn't seem entirely comfortable in that video, but that sends a message nonetheless. Also, Prigozhin never addressed Putin directly. There's a lot of stuff going on there, probably too much to draw conclusions, but I'm sure we'll see some people "disappear" or die of "natural causes" quite soon.
  - troupo 3y ago
    > I didn't write that Putin's image was being strengthened by having Lukashenko act as puppet You literally wrote "Putin couldn't negotiate in first person without appearing as weak." And you started with "it was a setup, planned by Putin from beginning to end in order to improve his strongman image". I've listed most of the things that actually happened. How does any of this improve his strongman image?
    - squarefoot 3y ago
      > And you started with "it was a setup, planned by Putin from beginning to end in order to improve his strongman image". I never wrote that. It was a quote from a post 2 levels up.
      - troupo 3y ago
        Sorry, didn't look at the user name because "Putin couldn't talk to Prigozhin directly because that would make him weak that's why this was done by the clown Lukashenko which made Putin look even weaker" and further justifications are no different from that post.

troupo 3y ago

> Lukashenko is Putin's puppet; Putin couldn't negotiate in first person without appearing as weak. Ah yes, instead it was negotiated by the unpopular ridiculed Lukashenko everyone views as a clown. This makes Putin seem strong. Also strong: Putin in the morning: these traitors will be brought to justice, I authorize Ministry of Defence to use any means possible. I give you my word. Putin in the evening: we drop all charges against this military coup (who also killed at least 12 soldiers furing their march on Moscow), and I give my word the Prigozhin can just go to Belarus. So strong. It's funny how putinophiles will try to contort reality to a ridiculous degree to find an angle to prove Putin is a superhuman playing 12-dimensional chess. Now imagine any Western leader doing the same, and how you would ridicule them.

squarefoot 3y ago
I didn't write that Putin's image was being strengthened by having Lukashenko act as puppet, the point is that he had to choose between being weakened or weakened and ridiculed. Also, in the same context they granted impunity to all Wagner soldiers; this must come from Putin, not Lukashenko, which has zero power in Russian affairs. Moreover, note that the two Russian officials shown talking with Prigozhin in Rostov are Shoigu's #2 and Gerasimov #2. They didn't seem entirely comfortable in that video, but that sends a message nonetheless. Also, Prigozhin never addressed Putin directly. There's a lot of stuff going on there, probably too much to draw conclusions, but I'm sure we'll see some people "disappear" or die of "natural causes" quite soon.
- troupo 3y ago
  > I didn't write that Putin's image was being strengthened by having Lukashenko act as puppet You literally wrote "Putin couldn't negotiate in first person without appearing as weak." And you started with "it was a setup, planned by Putin from beginning to end in order to improve his strongman image". I've listed most of the things that actually happened. How does any of this improve his strongman image?
  - squarefoot 3y ago
    > And you started with "it was a setup, planned by Putin from beginning to end in order to improve his strongman image". I never wrote that. It was a quote from a post 2 levels up.
    - troupo 3y ago
      Sorry, didn't look at the user name because "Putin couldn't talk to Prigozhin directly because that would make him weak that's why this was done by the clown Lukashenko which made Putin look even weaker" and further justifications are no different from that post.