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russian army did try to slow him down from the air. but they managed to take down 6 helicopters and one airplane (flying command center). all the army/etc on hi

by tguvot 3y ago

russian army did try to slow him down from the air. but they managed to take down 6 helicopters and one airplane (flying command center). all the army/etc on his way was simply surrendering

TeMPOraL 3y ago
Right. It would've been a different story if the Russian army treated them as enemy - their air forces could've stopped the convoy dead at any point of their choosing. Highways let you move fast only as long as they're intact and no one is shooting at you; otherwise, they make you an easy target. Russian army experienced that first-hand in the first two months of their invasion of Ukraine.
- tguvot 3y ago
  >Right. It would've been a different story if the Russian army treated them as enemy - their air forces could've stopped the convoy dead at any point of their choosing. my point was that they tried and they failed. wagner has a bunch of manpads and few pantsir sam systems. they tried to bomb them on highway from planes but missed and kill civilians in track. they also tried to shoot at them missles at voronezh but blew up some petrol refinary. they also tried to bomb some bridge to block road to moscow - but also missed
  - TeMPOraL 3y ago
    Is this confirmed? I stayed away from the news firehose this time, and only followed BBC live reporting, and IIRC there was no confirmation there of any bombing attempt, successful or otherwise.
    - tguvot 3y ago
      there are videos of helis shooting refinery and planes bombing bridge (followed by video of somebody driving near the bridge and holes in highway or near it). about track on highway - there are videos of it burning with commentary that plane try to bomb wagner convoy but missed
  - tetromino_ 3y ago
    > they also tried to shoot at them missles at voronezh but blew up some petrol refinary No, I believe the oil refinery got blown up by a Wagner surface to air missile. The Wagners were trying to shoot down a federal Ka-52, the helicopter successfully deployed countermeasures, and the missile flew off target into the backstop - which happened to be a refinery. There are two videos of the event from different angles circulating on telegram, it's pretty clear.
    - tguvot 3y ago
      the reports were saying that wagners camped at refinery and helis tried to shoot at them. either way, helis definitely weren't there on behalf of santa claus with early presents delivery
    - jjtheblunt 3y ago
      Where on telegram?
    - jhartwig 3y ago
      If that was the video I saw yesterday.... wow. That pilot should be thanking every god from every belief. That missle just barely missed him.

by tguvot 3y ago

russian army did try to slow him down from the air. but they managed to take down 6 helicopters and one airplane (flying command center). all the army/etc on his way was simply surrendering

TeMPOraL 3y ago

Right. It would've been a different story if the Russian army treated them as enemy - their air forces could've stopped the convoy dead at any point of their choosing. Highways let you move fast only as long as they're intact and no one is shooting at you; otherwise, they make you an easy target. Russian army experienced that first-hand in the first two months of their invasion of Ukraine.

tguvot 3y ago
>Right. It would've been a different story if the Russian army treated them as enemy - their air forces could've stopped the convoy dead at any point of their choosing. my point was that they tried and they failed. wagner has a bunch of manpads and few pantsir sam systems. they tried to bomb them on highway from planes but missed and kill civilians in track. they also tried to shoot at them missles at voronezh but blew up some petrol refinary. they also tried to bomb some bridge to block road to moscow - but also missed
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  Is this confirmed? I stayed away from the news firehose this time, and only followed BBC live reporting, and IIRC there was no confirmation there of any bombing attempt, successful or otherwise.
  - tguvot 3y ago
    there are videos of helis shooting refinery and planes bombing bridge (followed by video of somebody driving near the bridge and holes in highway or near it). about track on highway - there are videos of it burning with commentary that plane try to bomb wagner convoy but missed
- tetromino_ 3y ago
  > they also tried to shoot at them missles at voronezh but blew up some petrol refinary No, I believe the oil refinery got blown up by a Wagner surface to air missile. The Wagners were trying to shoot down a federal Ka-52, the helicopter successfully deployed countermeasures, and the missile flew off target into the backstop - which happened to be a refinery. There are two videos of the event from different angles circulating on telegram, it's pretty clear.
  - tguvot 3y ago
    the reports were saying that wagners camped at refinery and helis tried to shoot at them. either way, helis definitely weren't there on behalf of santa claus with early presents delivery
  - jjtheblunt 3y ago
    Where on telegram?
  - jhartwig 3y ago
    If that was the video I saw yesterday.... wow. That pilot should be thanking every god from every belief. That missle just barely missed him.