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Although I believe that Claude Shannon [1] was the father of computers and a much more important person than Alan Turing who probably had a more "controversial"

Although I believe that Claude Shannon [1] was the father of computers and a much more important person than Alan Turing who probably had a more "controversial" personality and thus he became a "cinematic" figure. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Shannon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Shannon

kristianc 3y ago
Possibly - but this thread is about Turing, because of an article about Alan Turing, which was posted by the Alan Turing institute on the anniversary of the birthday of, you guessed it, Alan Turing. Why the need to play one up?
- gargalatas 3y ago
  Because Shannon's name has to be heard as well just for some people who admire Steve Jobs as the biggest IT Idol in the universe and have no idea who the hell is Dennis Ritchie. Just saying..
  - kristianc 3y ago
    Great, write a blog post on him then and post it here for us all to read.
ayhanfuat 3y ago
Neither being gay nor being forcibly castrated has anything to do with personality [1]. [1] Link to Wikipedia personality page
- gargalatas 3y ago
  "While there is no generally agreed-upon definition of personality" Are you sure?
  - ayhanfuat 3y ago
    Yes, I am sure. Read the rest of the article. None of the disagreement is about sexual orientation being part of personality.
    - gargalatas 3y ago
      Well I am not, but I believe it can shape some aspects of it. But since I find you so dogmatic about it how about reading some papers which I really found very easily on google: https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/finding-new-home/202011/the-relationship-between-personality-and-sexual-orientation https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/finding-new-home/2...
      - ayhanfuat 3y ago
        You claimed it was Turing's personality which made him a "cinematic figure". Now you are coming with irrelevant articles about how sexual orientation is linked to personal traits like openness, agreeableness and conscientiousness. For your argument to follow, it should be that one of these made him a cinematic figure, huh?
29athrowaway 3y ago
Both were important, as well as many others, like Kurt Gödel. Science is about growing the frontier of knowledge, akin to making a cake larger, not dividing up a cake.

kristianc 3y ago

Possibly - but this thread is about Turing, because of an article about Alan Turing, which was posted by the Alan Turing institute on the anniversary of the birthday of, you guessed it, Alan Turing. Why the need to play one up?

gargalatas 3y ago
Because Shannon's name has to be heard as well just for some people who admire Steve Jobs as the biggest IT Idol in the universe and have no idea who the hell is Dennis Ritchie. Just saying..
- kristianc 3y ago
  Great, write a blog post on him then and post it here for us all to read.

ayhanfuat 3y ago

Neither being gay nor being forcibly castrated has anything to do with personality [1]. [1] Link to Wikipedia personality page

gargalatas 3y ago
"While there is no generally agreed-upon definition of personality" Are you sure?
- ayhanfuat 3y ago
  Yes, I am sure. Read the rest of the article. None of the disagreement is about sexual orientation being part of personality.
  - gargalatas 3y ago
    Well I am not, but I believe it can shape some aspects of it. But since I find you so dogmatic about it how about reading some papers which I really found very easily on google: https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/finding-new-home/202011/the-relationship-between-personality-and-sexual-orientation https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/finding-new-home/2...
    - ayhanfuat 3y ago
      You claimed it was Turing's personality which made him a "cinematic figure". Now you are coming with irrelevant articles about how sexual orientation is linked to personal traits like openness, agreeableness and conscientiousness. For your argument to follow, it should be that one of these made him a cinematic figure, huh?

29athrowaway 3y ago

Both were important, as well as many others, like Kurt Gödel. Science is about growing the frontier of knowledge, akin to making a cake larger, not dividing up a cake.