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January 2007. Steve Jobs introduces the iPhone web browser. “And to zoom in on any page, you just drag with two fingers… like this.” The crowd goes wild. Nobody
by pavlov 3y ago
January 2007. Steve Jobs introduces the iPhone web browser. “And to zoom in on any page, you just drag with two fingers… like this.” The crowd goes wild. Nobody has ever seen multitouch gestures before.
Still works!
- sgbeal 3y agoYeah, but it's annoying! It "should" "just work." This is the 21st century, for Pete's sake! PS: you lost me at "Steve Jobs".
- brimstedt 3y agoThis means two actions (zoom+click) when one would be enough. Efficiency first!
- rektide 3y agoEfficiency for whom? This works great for me. You'd make my experience awful by making things bigger, reducing information density.
- kwhitefoot 3y agoSurely CSS can detect and cope with screen sizes.
- aendruk 3y agoThe issue here isn’t screen size. @media (pointer: coarse) { /* UI for fingers */ } I frequently use small viewports on my laptop and the pervasiveness of this misconception drives me mad. I try to fit more information on the screen and websites respond by spatially bloating as if designed to impede.
- shashashasha___ 3y agois this a serious answer or trolling? how would web experience on mobile be if i have to manually zoom everything all of the time? fact is NH on mobile web is not optimized for unknown reasons. its not a big challenge to do it either. I have a userscript that makes everything bigger and removes junk out.
- chomp 3y agoIs there any evidence that discourse here would be improved by encouraging mobile users to slam out mobile-sized comments?
- giancarlostoro 3y agoNot sure but I comment from both my phone and desktop.
- nyjah 3y agoWhile I understand the sentiment, I think people here can discern between an iMessage and an hn comment. I would be curious to know the percentage of people commenting on mobile devices. I’d guess it’s a lot. I prefer the ui the way it is, I don’t mind the old school feel. I’m sure I could go get an App to make it better. But I don’t think mobile vs desktop necessarily correlates well to quality of hn comment. I could be wrong tho. Sent from my iphone
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- BaseballPhysics 3y agoDid you "slam out" that comment on your phone? I'm only asking because its shorter than most of the comments I post, here; comments I post almost exclusively from my phone because nine times out of ten that's where I'm browsing HN.
- johnnyanmac 3y agoIs there evidence to the contrary?
- gumby 3y agoOut of curiosity, what parts of the UI do you screen out?
- shashashasha___ 3y agolots of small links i don't care about (like flagging things, parent, ...) + dates and such. i focused the experience on reading, so i also make all comments collapsed by default so i can first read the top level ones. also have parts that were in viewport have style of 'visited' so I can ignore it next time. in other words, lots of changes to make the experience easier (to me)
- RaoulP 3y agoThat turn of events always struck me as funny too. Ironically (re. the title), I believe he even referred to the preceding standard of mobile browsing as the “baby web”. But now “responsive design” has taken over instead. Still no multitouch.
- johnnyanmac 3y agoIt's a shame because there very much are parts of the web that would benefit from proper multitouch support. But it's clear at some point that bespoke websites were abandoned (from a marketing and technical standpoint) by large companies in lieu of native mobile apps. Tangent aside, HN is a site purely focused on text with no dynamic content. It really doesn't benefit from needing to zoom in and out on your phone. It's just unnecessary friction.
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y agoThen when you go to zoom, it registers a click first, and you hit some random link instead.