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tbh i wouldn't be surprised signing (and sending) this petition would put your name on a list somewhere. that's the state of things.

luxuryballs 3y ago
Oh yeah and no human will even know it happened, the dragnet is pre-indexing everything in the event they need to get a warrant later… never should have been allowed, government should not get a copy of my papers and effects in advance so that they can search them later as needed! I bet they even have an ongoing automated decryption queue always running and growing in size.
- brightlancer 3y ago
  > I bet they even have an ongoing automated decryption queue always running and growing in size. Maybe, but it's likely very specific in its targets because the decryption is so expensive. If they have no reason to decrypt Bob's files today, they can shelve them for a later date when they have a reason and decryption is cheaper -- or a vulnerability has been discovered in the algorithm.
  - luxuryballs 3y ago
    Yes it surely is ordered by priority.
- smolder 3y ago
  > my papers and effects Nice nod to the "forgotten amendment".
lrvick 3y ago
I am sure I am already on plenty of them for supporting privacy and security and anti-corpo sentiment. What is one more?
kornhole 3y ago
So what? Silence is violence and silence is consent. Representatives do get and tally these emails. We must be brave.
akira2501 3y ago
It's a petition. It's primary function is to serve as a list of names. Your concern is that it might later be used for retaliation, which has always been true throughout the history of man. The solution is to ensure that the government cannot retaliate against it's own citizens with impunity.
- joker_minmax 3y ago
  How to do that outside of petitions without direct democracy?
wmf 3y ago
They already know if you want to sign this petition or not because it can be inferred from your other behavior. You're already on the list.

luxuryballs 3y ago

Oh yeah and no human will even know it happened, the dragnet is pre-indexing everything in the event they need to get a warrant later… never should have been allowed, government should not get a copy of my papers and effects in advance so that they can search them later as needed! I bet they even have an ongoing automated decryption queue always running and growing in size.

brightlancer 3y ago
> I bet they even have an ongoing automated decryption queue always running and growing in size. Maybe, but it's likely very specific in its targets because the decryption is so expensive. If they have no reason to decrypt Bob's files today, they can shelve them for a later date when they have a reason and decryption is cheaper -- or a vulnerability has been discovered in the algorithm.
- luxuryballs 3y ago
  Yes it surely is ordered by priority.
smolder 3y ago
> my papers and effects Nice nod to the "forgotten amendment".

lrvick 3y ago

I am sure I am already on plenty of them for supporting privacy and security and anti-corpo sentiment. What is one more?

kornhole 3y ago

So what? Silence is violence and silence is consent. Representatives do get and tally these emails. We must be brave.

akira2501 3y ago

It's a petition. It's primary function is to serve as a list of names. Your concern is that it might later be used for retaliation, which has always been true throughout the history of man. The solution is to ensure that the government cannot retaliate against it's own citizens with impunity.

joker_minmax 3y ago
How to do that outside of petitions without direct democracy?

wmf 3y ago

They already know if you want to sign this petition or not because it can be inferred from your other behavior. You're already on the list.