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> Also completely garbage unstable and unreliable driver & firmware support from both AMD and Lenovo, but that's another story as a counterpoint, i'm on a P14s

> Also completely garbage unstable and unreliable driver & firmware support from both AMD and Lenovo, but that's another story as a counterpoint, i'm on a P14s Gen 2 Thinkpad (Ryzen 7 PRO 5850u) and have zero issues on EndeavourOS (Arch, KDE/Plasma). most of my time is in VSCode, SublimeMerge, Chrome, MPV. i did have to rip out the realtek (or mediatek?) M.2 wifi card and swap in an intel one tho.

cmrdporcupine 3y ago
Lenovo straight up broke the USB-C ports support for external displays (and other things) in the latest BIOS update for my machine -- for both Windows and Linux -- and there's no way to roll back and there's not a peep from them on any kind of attempt to fix or even acknowledgement of a problem. Requires a hardware ("pinhole" not power cycle) reset every time I want to switch between external monitor use and laptop only. My bug report/forum post here: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-Z-series-Laptops/External-USB-C-display-stopped-working-1-57-BIOS-Update-Z16-AMD-Gen-1/m-p/5228342 https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-Z-series-Laptops/Exter... -- other people are effected. Last year they pushed out a BIOS update which caused the fan to run 100% of the time. Then a "fix" which caused it to overheat. And in-between there somewhere something was pushed that caused me to have to reformat the whole thing. Lid-open-to-awake in Linux used to simply not work 75% of the time, required a hard reset. Now it works, but there's a 5-10 second pause before display turns on (Windows or Linux) vs almost instant on the work issued laptops I've had recently (MBP M1 and some HP Z series thing, running Linux) Waste of cash. Bought this thing to be my dev workstation when I took a contract job last summer, wish I'd never done that. Software quality / support at Lenovo is a real problem.
- Projectiboga 3y ago
  My Think Pad Tablet has had issues after a bad firmware partial update. It won't stay on past 30 min. It is really souring my former respect for them. I understand it is part TPM issues, but now I have basically a semi-brick. I was able to move the whole os to a VM. I'll try linux and see if it was a Win-Bios interaction bug. And if that doesn't fix it I'll wait six more months and see if it gets a working update. By my former respect for Lenovo is now gone.
- rewmie 3y ago
  > Lenovo straight up broke the USB-C ports support (...) According to AMD, the AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 6850H does not have USB type-C support. https://www.amd.com/en/product/11621 https://www.amd.com/en/product/11621
  - cmrdporcupine 3y ago
    What does that even mean? Clearly the laptop itself has USB-C support (it has 2 USB-C 4 and 1 1 USB-C 3.2).
JonChesterfield 3y ago
Couple of T14s (one debian, one windows) and a 4800U (both) here, all solid. I haven't tried updating the bios.

cmrdporcupine 3y ago

Lenovo straight up broke the USB-C ports support for external displays (and other things) in the latest BIOS update for my machine -- for both Windows and Linux -- and there's no way to roll back and there's not a peep from them on any kind of attempt to fix or even acknowledgement of a problem. Requires a hardware ("pinhole" not power cycle) reset every time I want to switch between external monitor use and laptop only. My bug report/forum post here: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-Z-series-Laptops/External-USB-C-display-stopped-working-1-57-BIOS-Update-Z16-AMD-Gen-1/m-p/5228342 https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-Z-series-Laptops/Exter... -- other people are effected. Last year they pushed out a BIOS update which caused the fan to run 100% of the time. Then a "fix" which caused it to overheat. And in-between there somewhere something was pushed that caused me to have to reformat the whole thing. Lid-open-to-awake in Linux used to simply not work 75% of the time, required a hard reset. Now it works, but there's a 5-10 second pause before display turns on (Windows or Linux) vs almost instant on the work issued laptops I've had recently (MBP M1 and some HP Z series thing, running Linux) Waste of cash. Bought this thing to be my dev workstation when I took a contract job last summer, wish I'd never done that. Software quality / support at Lenovo is a real problem.

Projectiboga 3y ago
My Think Pad Tablet has had issues after a bad firmware partial update. It won't stay on past 30 min. It is really souring my former respect for them. I understand it is part TPM issues, but now I have basically a semi-brick. I was able to move the whole os to a VM. I'll try linux and see if it was a Win-Bios interaction bug. And if that doesn't fix it I'll wait six more months and see if it gets a working update. By my former respect for Lenovo is now gone.
rewmie 3y ago
> Lenovo straight up broke the USB-C ports support (...) According to AMD, the AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 6850H does not have USB type-C support. https://www.amd.com/en/product/11621 https://www.amd.com/en/product/11621
- cmrdporcupine 3y ago
  What does that even mean? Clearly the laptop itself has USB-C support (it has 2 USB-C 4 and 1 1 USB-C 3.2).

JonChesterfield 3y ago

Couple of T14s (one debian, one windows) and a 4800U (both) here, all solid. I haven't tried updating the bios.