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Well, non Ferengi will often sign contracts then come back to claim they didn’t know it bound them to do illegal actions, or refuse to do something immoral or w

Well, non Ferengi will often sign contracts then come back to claim they didn’t know it bound them to do illegal actions, or refuse to do something immoral or worse yet claim bankruptcy and try to run from debt. So this line is a warning about outsiders.

Ekaros 3y ago
Federation is great example of this. They go to planet and one of their crew members commits a crime... And then they fail to allow just punishment to happen to that crew member. Just goes to show that they feel superior to other races and do not follow any laws that might apply to them. With such people how could contract be contract?
- nurettin 3y ago
  Yeah but it's usually something akin to "capital punishment for pressing the grass" which is just ridiculously outlandish pardon the pun.
  - teekert 3y ago
    “When has justice ever been as simple as a rule book?“
    - nurettin 3y ago
      You know s1e8! The quote fits so well with the website's intentions.
  - deleted 3y ago
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- scarface_74 3y ago
  The “crime” that Wesley committed in one episode was that he was playing sports with some other teenagers and accidentally fell into a flower bed. The punishment? death.
- eesmith 3y ago
  > they fail to allow just punishment to happen to that crew member Which episode were you thinking of? I'm assuming TNG's "Justice"? In ToS "Wolf in the Fold", Scott did not commit the crime but was subject to the local authorities; In DS9 "Hard Time" O'Brien did not commit the crime but was subject to and punished by the local authorities; In ToS "A Taste of Armageddon" the entire crew violate local law by not reporting to the disintegration chambers; In ToS "City on the Edge of Forever" Kirk and Spock steal clothing, and Spock steals tools (that one concerned the human race); In "Patterns of Force" Kirk and Spock are arrested and interrogated after stealing clothing and attempting to infiltrate a government building; In VOY "The Chute" Paris and Kim are imprisoned after a false conviction; In VOY "Ex Post Facto" Paris is imprisoned after a false conviction. (Also, Nog attacked an army captain while under detention in New Mexico in DS9 "Little Green Men", and escaped without punishment by the local authorities.) If you are talking about "Justice", I don't think your characterization is quite accurate. In fact, I think you've flipped things? Quoting Memory Alpha at https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Justice_(episode) https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Justice_(episode): > Liato feels that Picard is suggesting some kind of a superiority. He suggests that the Enterprise just use their superior powers to rescue the boy, stating that they would just record him as a convicted criminal out of their reach, an advanced person who luckily escaped the barbarism of their "backward little world". But Picard tells them that he wants to honor and respect the Edo's rules and law, referencing the Prime Directive. and > Rivan is amazed at "the city" in the sky, and is surprised that with all this power, they do not just take Wesley. ... > Finally, Picard asks how the Edo God aliens would react if they were to violate the Prime Directive and Data answers that they would consider the Enterprise crew to be "deceitful and untrustworthy" and subsequently reminds Picard that the Edo God aliens warned them to not to interfere with their children below. Picard, before the sundown deadline when Wesley's execution was supposed to take place, instead appeals to the Edo god / high-tech "parent" and receives leniency. Its/their authority is above that of the Mediators, and recognized as such by the Edo.
  - Ekaros 3y ago
    So they broke the rules and did not accept absolutely reasonable and just punishment for the heinous crime. Likely they used something threat of genocide to attain their goals. If you go to different country and break laws, ýou should be fully expected to accept any punishment. Especially when you are specially selected for such missions. And this should extend to anyone you take with you. Just leave the kids and families home if you can not lose risking them when they do evil things.

Ekaros 3y ago

Federation is great example of this. They go to planet and one of their crew members commits a crime... And then they fail to allow just punishment to happen to that crew member. Just goes to show that they feel superior to other races and do not follow any laws that might apply to them. With such people how could contract be contract?

nurettin 3y ago
Yeah but it's usually something akin to "capital punishment for pressing the grass" which is just ridiculously outlandish pardon the pun.
- teekert 3y ago
  “When has justice ever been as simple as a rule book?“
  - nurettin 3y ago
    You know s1e8! The quote fits so well with the website's intentions.
- deleted 3y ago
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scarface_74 3y ago
The “crime” that Wesley committed in one episode was that he was playing sports with some other teenagers and accidentally fell into a flower bed. The punishment? death.
eesmith 3y ago
> they fail to allow just punishment to happen to that crew member Which episode were you thinking of? I'm assuming TNG's "Justice"? In ToS "Wolf in the Fold", Scott did not commit the crime but was subject to the local authorities; In DS9 "Hard Time" O'Brien did not commit the crime but was subject to and punished by the local authorities; In ToS "A Taste of Armageddon" the entire crew violate local law by not reporting to the disintegration chambers; In ToS "City on the Edge of Forever" Kirk and Spock steal clothing, and Spock steals tools (that one concerned the human race); In "Patterns of Force" Kirk and Spock are arrested and interrogated after stealing clothing and attempting to infiltrate a government building; In VOY "The Chute" Paris and Kim are imprisoned after a false conviction; In VOY "Ex Post Facto" Paris is imprisoned after a false conviction. (Also, Nog attacked an army captain while under detention in New Mexico in DS9 "Little Green Men", and escaped without punishment by the local authorities.) If you are talking about "Justice", I don't think your characterization is quite accurate. In fact, I think you've flipped things? Quoting Memory Alpha at https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Justice_(episode) https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Justice_(episode): > Liato feels that Picard is suggesting some kind of a superiority. He suggests that the Enterprise just use their superior powers to rescue the boy, stating that they would just record him as a convicted criminal out of their reach, an advanced person who luckily escaped the barbarism of their "backward little world". But Picard tells them that he wants to honor and respect the Edo's rules and law, referencing the Prime Directive. and > Rivan is amazed at "the city" in the sky, and is surprised that with all this power, they do not just take Wesley. ... > Finally, Picard asks how the Edo God aliens would react if they were to violate the Prime Directive and Data answers that they would consider the Enterprise crew to be "deceitful and untrustworthy" and subsequently reminds Picard that the Edo God aliens warned them to not to interfere with their children below. Picard, before the sundown deadline when Wesley's execution was supposed to take place, instead appeals to the Edo god / high-tech "parent" and receives leniency. Its/their authority is above that of the Mediators, and recognized as such by the Edo.
- Ekaros 3y ago
  So they broke the rules and did not accept absolutely reasonable and just punishment for the heinous crime. Likely they used something threat of genocide to attain their goals. If you go to different country and break laws, ýou should be fully expected to accept any punishment. Especially when you are specially selected for such missions. And this should extend to anyone you take with you. Just leave the kids and families home if you can not lose risking them when they do evil things.