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Which is what I do. That was the point of my comment.

defrost 3y ago
Fair play - HN has a significant number of UK | Canadian | Australian | European members who generally have a broader view of the political landscape .. but it is at core a US centric forum and frequently slips into a stereotypical Left V. Right hole. As an Australian I fall to the left of US politics, I largely agree with the bulk of Craig Murray's writing on UK Immigration under the Tories: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/11/rampant-deprofessionalisation/ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/11/rampant-depr... ( went to hell under privatisation and cost cutting, current 'crisis' over exaggerated, etc. )
- jjgreen 3y ago
  Part of the charm of the place, an upvoted comment when the Poms are awake gets downvoted to oblivion when the Yanks are drinking their morning coffee (and vice versa of course).
- hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
  Incidentally, comments like the one in your link are the kind that I imagine will ruffle feathers "on the left", in fact I can imagine many will react with "oMg rAcIsT"[1] where my view is this is a person with a degree of domain expertise that you'll rarely find anywhere else who at the same time by virtue of being very self-consistent throughout time should be believed to be coming from a place of intelectual honesty. Thanks for the link BTW [1] for example the line "Equally very large numbers are allowed in on the basis of entirely fraudulent applications and forged documents." I can assure you will trigger some "on the left" because omg he's saying that some immigrants shouldn't be allowed in. He himself feel the need to follow up that line with "We liberals are not supposed to admit that side of the equation, but it is true." just so the reader isnt confused on which side he's on.
  - defrost 3y ago
    Hmm. As someone on the actual Australian left I can't see many I know on the left being concerned about the full context of that quote: Businesses in the UK suffer massive damage from important export customers being inexplicably refused visas, *equally very large numbers are allowed in on the basis of entirely fraudulent applications and forged documents* It's very clear he is not talking about people in need, asylum seekers, families seeking to reconnect, etc - he's talking about the domain of "immigration for business reasons" being a shit show of random refusals coupled with free passes handed out to the clearly bogus. Your comment suggests you have some overly broad cartoon characterisation of what you imagine to be "the left".

Fair play - HN has a significant number of UK | Canadian | Australian | European members who generally have a broader view of the political landscape .. but it is at core a US centric forum and frequently slips into a stereotypical Left V. Right hole. As an Australian I fall to the left of US politics, I largely agree with the bulk of Craig Murray's writing on UK Immigration under the Tories: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/11/rampant-deprofessionalisation/ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/11/rampant-depr... ( went to hell under privatisation and cost cutting, current 'crisis' over exaggerated, etc. )

jjgreen 3y ago
Part of the charm of the place, an upvoted comment when the Poms are awake gets downvoted to oblivion when the Yanks are drinking their morning coffee (and vice versa of course).
hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
Incidentally, comments like the one in your link are the kind that I imagine will ruffle feathers "on the left", in fact I can imagine many will react with "oMg rAcIsT"[1] where my view is this is a person with a degree of domain expertise that you'll rarely find anywhere else who at the same time by virtue of being very self-consistent throughout time should be believed to be coming from a place of intelectual honesty. Thanks for the link BTW [1] for example the line "Equally very large numbers are allowed in on the basis of entirely fraudulent applications and forged documents." I can assure you will trigger some "on the left" because omg he's saying that some immigrants shouldn't be allowed in. He himself feel the need to follow up that line with "We liberals are not supposed to admit that side of the equation, but it is true." just so the reader isnt confused on which side he's on.
- defrost 3y ago
  Hmm. As someone on the actual Australian left I can't see many I know on the left being concerned about the full context of that quote: Businesses in the UK suffer massive damage from important export customers being inexplicably refused visas, *equally very large numbers are allowed in on the basis of entirely fraudulent applications and forged documents* It's very clear he is not talking about people in need, asylum seekers, families seeking to reconnect, etc - he's talking about the domain of "immigration for business reasons" being a shit show of random refusals coupled with free passes handed out to the clearly bogus. Your comment suggests you have some overly broad cartoon characterisation of what you imagine to be "the left".