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Did you see how they collect their data? ("Representative consumers in the US") http://www.compete.com/us/about/our-data/ http://www.compete.com/us/about/our-d

Did you see how they collect their data? ("Representative consumers in the US") http://www.compete.com/us/about/our-data/ http://www.compete.com/us/about/our-data/ Google shows the graph going up over time (and is international): http://trends.google.com/websites?q=news.ycombinator.com http://trends.google.com/websites?q=news.ycombinator.com Alexa has a different shape (bump up in 1Q2011 and then slow decline): http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/ycombinator.com http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/ycombinator.com So three different companies all claiming to have good data with three completely different shapes for the traffic in 2011. It shows just how unreliable the data is. I remember the reddit folks saying just how bad the sites like the above were compared to the actual traffic they were getting (can't be bothered to find the link).

raldi 15y ago
http://blog.reddit.com/2010/07/experts-misunderestimate-our-traffic.html http://blog.reddit.com/2010/07/experts-misunderestimate-our-...
joering2 15y ago
I didnt say anything about specific numbers; I just stated fact that the numbers are falling. I agree with you that each monitoring company comes up with totally different numbers. on the top of that, companies do revamp their websites - use more or less ajax, change approach to pinging back theirs servers for updated data, etc, and numbers can go sky-high or plummet and still it won't be a reliable read. but AFAIK this "problem" does not affect rather stable design of HN. > Did you see how they collect their data? ("Representative consumers in the US") Again, if I dont look into numbers, but only simple chart, I read it that: representative consumers in US that use hackerNews website declined. thats it. Now, someone else pointed: does it even matter? It depends who we ask.
- rogerbinns 15y ago
  > I just stated fact that the numbers are falling Except Google says they are climbing and Alexa says they are about the same, and as Raldi pointed in his link for stats of Reddit (a somewhat similar site) the numbers these services report are essentially fiction. > representative consumers in US that use hackerNews website declined According to Quantcast they are climbing (almost 50% increase). The only people who know the actual traffic figures are the admins. Why not ask them for the real numbers instead of considering one cherry picked report as a fact?
- rogerbinns 15y ago
  And HN just published their stats showing that your "fact" is complete BS. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3669947 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3669947

raldi 15y ago

http://blog.reddit.com/2010/07/experts-misunderestimate-our-traffic.html http://blog.reddit.com/2010/07/experts-misunderestimate-our-...

joering2 15y ago

I didnt say anything about specific numbers; I just stated fact that the numbers are falling. I agree with you that each monitoring company comes up with totally different numbers. on the top of that, companies do revamp their websites - use more or less ajax, change approach to pinging back theirs servers for updated data, etc, and numbers can go sky-high or plummet and still it won't be a reliable read. but AFAIK this "problem" does not affect rather stable design of HN. > Did you see how they collect their data? ("Representative consumers in the US") Again, if I dont look into numbers, but only simple chart, I read it that: representative consumers in US that use hackerNews website declined. thats it. Now, someone else pointed: does it even matter? It depends who we ask.

rogerbinns 15y ago
> I just stated fact that the numbers are falling Except Google says they are climbing and Alexa says they are about the same, and as Raldi pointed in his link for stats of Reddit (a somewhat similar site) the numbers these services report are essentially fiction. > representative consumers in US that use hackerNews website declined According to Quantcast they are climbing (almost 50% increase). The only people who know the actual traffic figures are the admins. Why not ask them for the real numbers instead of considering one cherry picked report as a fact?
rogerbinns 15y ago
And HN just published their stats showing that your "fact" is complete BS. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3669947 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3669947