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> Anyway, what's the difference between a rule and a guideline? Is a red light a rule or guide? Guideline: don't bother neighbours after 20:00 Rule: Loud nois

by ilyt 3y ago

> Anyway, what's the difference between a rule and a guideline? Is a red light a rule or guide? Guideline: don't bother neighbours after 20:00 Rule: Loud noises not allowed after 20:00 If you make sure to steer clear from guideline ("hey neighbour, we want to have a party, will it be okay if we be loud till 00:00","thanks"), the rules will not need to be enforced (neighbour calling the police to complain)

tsukikage 3y ago
Now imagine you are not, in fact, on good terms with your neighbour, as sometimes happens. How should you behave in order to not spend every single evening arguing over the meaning of "bother neighbour" with the police? A more rigid definition serves to protect you, not just your neighbour.
Dah00n 3y ago
Rule: Loud noises not allowed after 20:00 unless permission have been given from neighbours. No loud noises after 23. Much better than a guideline in my opinion.
- nikau 3y ago
  And how do you confirm all neighbours have agreed? What's the radius for neighbours? What about extortion to get neighbors to agree? Status quo is much simpler - it's banned but if neighbours all agree have a late party and police aren't called
  - Dah00n 3y ago
    >Status quo is much simpler - it's banned but if neighbours all agree have a late party and police aren't called How is that any different to what I just wrote? In your own example, the "What's the radius" and "How do you confirm all have agreed" is no different either.
    - nikau 3y ago
      because your rule is impossible to enforce.
- ilyt 3y ago
  I don't disagree but running around neighbourhood with piece of paper titled "permission to party" and asking people to sign it would feel weird.
  - Dah00n 3y ago
    This isn't a court, so no need for a paper trail. Rules are already like this in many flat complexes - I'd say most even, here in Denmark: No loud noise after X except with neighbour permission. Silence after Y.
    - ilyt 3y ago
      Right till neighbour changes their mind and pisses on your verbal agreement and you have nothing to go by.

by ilyt 3y ago

tsukikage 3y ago

Now imagine you are not, in fact, on good terms with your neighbour, as sometimes happens. How should you behave in order to not spend every single evening arguing over the meaning of "bother neighbour" with the police? A more rigid definition serves to protect you, not just your neighbour.

Dah00n 3y ago

Rule: Loud noises not allowed after 20:00 unless permission have been given from neighbours. No loud noises after 23. Much better than a guideline in my opinion.

nikau 3y ago
And how do you confirm all neighbours have agreed? What's the radius for neighbours? What about extortion to get neighbors to agree? Status quo is much simpler - it's banned but if neighbours all agree have a late party and police aren't called
- Dah00n 3y ago
  >Status quo is much simpler - it's banned but if neighbours all agree have a late party and police aren't called How is that any different to what I just wrote? In your own example, the "What's the radius" and "How do you confirm all have agreed" is no different either.
  - nikau 3y ago
    because your rule is impossible to enforce.
ilyt 3y ago
I don't disagree but running around neighbourhood with piece of paper titled "permission to party" and asking people to sign it would feel weird.
- Dah00n 3y ago
  This isn't a court, so no need for a paper trail. Rules are already like this in many flat complexes - I'd say most even, here in Denmark: No loud noise after X except with neighbour permission. Silence after Y.
  - ilyt 3y ago
    Right till neighbour changes their mind and pisses on your verbal agreement and you have nothing to go by.