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I'm not sure the same thing is on the horizon for the Fedi because it's in a different position. If facebook did join and suddenly we have a huge number of new

I'm not sure the same thing is on the horizon for the Fedi because it's in a different position. If facebook did join and suddenly we have a huge number of new people to talk to, many servers will block facebook on sight, and so will many individual users. So they'll never interact or be part of it from day one. Let's say that over the next few months facebook add some cool new features to ActivityPub which don't work very well on Mastodon, are completely broken on Pixelfed and Lemmy's dev is actively against. These features are things that facebook users are accustomed to, and some pre-facebook Fedizens really like the idea of. If facebook then decide to cease federating, except with instagram, twitter and tumblr, me as a Mastodon and Pixelfed user simply doesn't care. They can vanish for all I care. I have a bountiful network of pre-facebook Fedi people already. I'm sure Shiny New Features will lure some people back to those abusive platforms, but a substantial majority of the current active user base on the Fedi are there because we despise being abused by social media companies. The developer communities behind the software that I use will stick with their parts of the spec, forking it if need be. We'll do without the shiny features for now, and we have plenty of friends, or at the very least, plenty of friends yet to find on the platform. The Fedi already has its critical mass of users, developer communities, and servers, using and creating the platforms for reasons which are purposefully against the abusive social media's aims. They will carry the current spec off on their own if they need to.

lapcat 3y ago
> If facebook did join and suddenly we have a huge number of new people to talk to, many servers will block facebook on sight, and so will many individual users. So they'll never interact or be part of it from day one. Well, the debate about whether to preemptively block Meta, which has been raging among Mastodon users, is precisely the context in which the article was written: "if Meta joins the Fediverse, Meta will be the only one winning. In fact, reactions show that they are already winning: the Fediverse is split between blocking Meta or not."
- proactivesvcs 3y ago
  That split is only a split in one sense. If me, on Fosstodon which blocks facebook, wants to read your posts on a server that doesn't block, we are not impeded.
  - dredmorbius 3y ago
    That depends on whether or not instance blocks are transitive. There's a suggestion made by some, myself included, that instances which fail to block Facebook should also be blocked. That is, costs of defection are increased.

lapcat 3y ago

> If facebook did join and suddenly we have a huge number of new people to talk to, many servers will block facebook on sight, and so will many individual users. So they'll never interact or be part of it from day one. Well, the debate about whether to preemptively block Meta, which has been raging among Mastodon users, is precisely the context in which the article was written: "if Meta joins the Fediverse, Meta will be the only one winning. In fact, reactions show that they are already winning: the Fediverse is split between blocking Meta or not."

proactivesvcs 3y ago
That split is only a split in one sense. If me, on Fosstodon which blocks facebook, wants to read your posts on a server that doesn't block, we are not impeded.
- dredmorbius 3y ago
  That depends on whether or not instance blocks are transitive. There's a suggestion made by some, myself included, that instances which fail to block Facebook should also be blocked. That is, costs of defection are increased.