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It definitely is real, that the head of Wagner, which acted as Putins man of brute shadow force - is now an enemy of Putin. This was coming since a while, since
by hutzlibu 3y ago
It definitely is real, that the head of Wagner, which acted as Putins man of brute shadow force - is now an enemy of Putin. This was coming since a while, since Prigoshin stepped over the line many times and he refused the ultimatum by the Russian Ministry of Defence, to put Wagner Forces tightly under MoD control. And now things are escalating.
Everything else is filled with deepfakes, old footage and co
But Wagner forces are around 25 000. It is not clear how loyal the bulk of them are towards Prigoshin personally (I have my doubts) but many russian russians share the hate for the MoD.
And there is solid evidence, that they control some area.
- brutusborn 3y agoWhat makes you so sure?
- hutzlibu 3y agoBecause russian state TV is a legit source of Putin speeches?
- brutusborn 3y agoSurely someone records this and translates it for western eyes. Do you have a source link or are we just playing Chinese whispers?
- hutzlibu 3y agoErm, you can directly check tass.com if you like. They even have a english version. Or really any other russian source. Russian militar blogger telegram channels, etc. (It is a good habit btw. to always also have a look at the opposing side of view)
- brutusborn 3y agoSo looks like the coup was fake, I find it funny that the coup ended before you could send a single source link. I just wanted to know where people got their info, I wasn’t asking for much. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/06/24/europe/russia-putin-wagner-uprising-saturday-intl/index.html https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/06/24/europe/russia-putin-wagne...
- hutzlibu 3y agotass.com was not a link? Also I do not see, where tanks on the road to moscow were fake. It was the russian way of doing politics.
- brutusborn 3y agoIt's a link, but not a source. That's like you asking me for a source of a Biden speech and I reply "youtube.com" Not very useful. Tanks on the road to Moscow could be used to give an impression of a coup. For all we know Putin set this up to expose any rogue elements looking to oust him.
- watwut 3y agoIf you put it into Google, you will find exactly that from multiple sources. I do not know which accounts or news agencies you find reputable, so I do not know which one to link so you trust it. But you yourself should know which journals or accounts you trust.
- watwut 3y agoNot him, but for the last two years, I aggressively unfollowed all sources that posted wrong or premature information. I kept only those who limited themselves to what was confirmed and openly admitted error in case of mistake. It is doable. With that strategy, I get more cautious news, not the hottest of the hot stuff, but I am pretty sure thing is happening now.