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My main problem with opensuse is no body uses it. Many projects either don't offer packages for it, or you need to use the in-distro package, which are certain

My main problem with opensuse is no body uses it. Many projects either don't offer packages for it, or you need to use the in-distro package, which are certainly out of date. In addition to Zypper being dog slow.

krylon 3y ago
To be honest, I was surprised time and again how many projects support it. Microsoft, e.g. has a repo for VS Code. But yes, there are quite a few projects without direct support for OpenSUSE, for my needs it hasn't been a big problem so far.
- dizhn 3y ago
  Recently nvidia added an opensuse repo too. I personally have yet to encounter a package I couldn't find.
- jacooper 3y ago
  In my case docker not having a SUSE repo is a big hurdle, as I use docker everywhere.
  - adultSwim 3y ago
    I would assume that Suse maintains their own Docker packages. I rely on Docker's repo since I currently run Debian stable, whose docker packages are way too old. I would imagine Tumbleweed doesn't have this issue. One of the reasons I'm looking at switching to podman is to avoid being reliant on third party repos.
    - jacooper 3y ago
      They do have docker in their repos, its just not the latest version. Its the same thing with podman, you are going to be stuck with old versions, and I would say its much more important to have the latest version of podman than docker, as its very actively developed, especially when it comes to compatibility with docker compose.
      - adultSwim 3y ago
        Tumbleweed has v24 of Docker. The versioned releases do as well, as experimental packages. I'm going to have to give Suse a serious look. https://software.opensuse.org/package/docker https://software.opensuse.org/package/docker
        jacooper 3y ago
        Yeah thatay work on desktop, but not on server where you probably want to use Leap.
        jacooper 3y ago
        *That may
fffrantz 3y ago
Honestly, zypper is nowhere as slow as dnf/yum. It feels like it's a problem with every rpm-based distro, unfortunately
- jacooper 3y ago
  In my experience, you can just force DNF to download from certain regions, which fixes the speed for me. However nothing like that exists for Zypper.
dizhn 3y ago
Zypper does a repo refresh rather frequently which adds to it feeling slow. You can disable that.
- jacooper 3y ago
  Yeah but the speed of these repo refreshes is slow af. On Ubuntu/Debian I get 20MB/s, on Zypper I barely get .5mb/s DNF is slow too, not because the CDN is slow, but because it sucks at choosing mirrors, limiting to specific countries fixes the issue, that doesnt seem possible with SUSE, or rather it doesn't seem to solve it.
mikae1 3y ago
> Many projects either don't offer packages for it Use an Arch Distrobox or Flatpaks if you can't find a specific package in OBS.
adultSwim 3y ago
Lack of packages is my main concern. Plenty of software provide their own deb's, which lets me (mostly) get away with running Debian Stable. Does Suse have something like AUR?
- jacooper 3y ago
  No, but flatpak and distrobox, which allows you to run any distro in a container, exist.

krylon 3y ago

To be honest, I was surprised time and again how many projects support it. Microsoft, e.g. has a repo for VS Code. But yes, there are quite a few projects without direct support for OpenSUSE, for my needs it hasn't been a big problem so far.

dizhn 3y ago
Recently nvidia added an opensuse repo too. I personally have yet to encounter a package I couldn't find.
jacooper 3y ago
In my case docker not having a SUSE repo is a big hurdle, as I use docker everywhere.
- adultSwim 3y ago
  I would assume that Suse maintains their own Docker packages. I rely on Docker's repo since I currently run Debian stable, whose docker packages are way too old. I would imagine Tumbleweed doesn't have this issue. One of the reasons I'm looking at switching to podman is to avoid being reliant on third party repos.
  - jacooper 3y ago
    They do have docker in their repos, its just not the latest version. Its the same thing with podman, you are going to be stuck with old versions, and I would say its much more important to have the latest version of podman than docker, as its very actively developed, especially when it comes to compatibility with docker compose.
    - adultSwim 3y ago
      Tumbleweed has v24 of Docker. The versioned releases do as well, as experimental packages. I'm going to have to give Suse a serious look. https://software.opensuse.org/package/docker https://software.opensuse.org/package/docker
      - jacooper 3y ago
        Yeah thatay work on desktop, but not on server where you probably want to use Leap.
        jacooper 3y ago
        *That may

fffrantz 3y ago

Honestly, zypper is nowhere as slow as dnf/yum. It feels like it's a problem with every rpm-based distro, unfortunately

jacooper 3y ago
In my experience, you can just force DNF to download from certain regions, which fixes the speed for me. However nothing like that exists for Zypper.

dizhn 3y ago

Zypper does a repo refresh rather frequently which adds to it feeling slow. You can disable that.

jacooper 3y ago
Yeah but the speed of these repo refreshes is slow af. On Ubuntu/Debian I get 20MB/s, on Zypper I barely get .5mb/s DNF is slow too, not because the CDN is slow, but because it sucks at choosing mirrors, limiting to specific countries fixes the issue, that doesnt seem possible with SUSE, or rather it doesn't seem to solve it.

mikae1 3y ago

> Many projects either don't offer packages for it Use an Arch Distrobox or Flatpaks if you can't find a specific package in OBS.

adultSwim 3y ago

Lack of packages is my main concern. Plenty of software provide their own deb's, which lets me (mostly) get away with running Debian Stable. Does Suse have something like AUR?

jacooper 3y ago
No, but flatpak and distrobox, which allows you to run any distro in a container, exist.