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It's quite the opposite philosophy: Debian keeps things stable for a long time. Tumbleweed updates huge parts of the system rather frequently. And to have a saf

It's quite the opposite philosophy: Debian keeps things stable for a long time. Tumbleweed updates huge parts of the system rather frequently. And to have a safety net, it takes snapshots of the installation before the upgrade. You can easily run Debian on 10 year old laptop with a rotating disk. You'd probably don't want to do that with Tumbleweed. It fully depends on your preferences what you count as an advantage.

ChuckNorris89 3y ago
If you have a 10+ year laptop then there's not much of an advantage going with rolling distros. Stable Debian/Ubuntu distros would be better suited. Rolling distros are great if you get a brand new laptop with modern HW and fancy features (AV1 encoding, thunderbolt/USB4, keyboard RGB, OLED displays with HDR, variable refresh rate, etc) that require you to be on the bleeding edge to make use of them.
- ekianjo 3y ago
  Of course there is. You get to benefit from the latest versions of GNOME or KDE plus thousands of packages that have more recent versions in rolling distros.
  - ChuckNorris89 3y ago
    I was talking from the perspective of the average user who's moving from away Windows on their 10+ year old laptop, not the developer/tinkerer focused HN userbase who always wants to be on the bleedings edge. Debian/Ubuntu stable is more than good enough for 95% of the average users, especially, on such old machines, you're better off with Ubuntu/Debian stable than bleeding edge rolling. You don't get any benefits from rolling on such old hardware for the average user but get more risks from potential issues from being on the bleeding edge. Ubuntu distros exist that take KDE to the bleeding edge but keep everything else on the sabe branch, you don't need to go rolling distro for that.
    - ekianjo 3y ago
      > potential issues from being on the bleeding edge. potential issues from the bleeding edge on 10 years old laptops ? Exceedingly rare (I have a 10 years old laptop on a bleeding edge distro)

ChuckNorris89 3y ago

If you have a 10+ year laptop then there's not much of an advantage going with rolling distros. Stable Debian/Ubuntu distros would be better suited. Rolling distros are great if you get a brand new laptop with modern HW and fancy features (AV1 encoding, thunderbolt/USB4, keyboard RGB, OLED displays with HDR, variable refresh rate, etc) that require you to be on the bleeding edge to make use of them.

ekianjo 3y ago
Of course there is. You get to benefit from the latest versions of GNOME or KDE plus thousands of packages that have more recent versions in rolling distros.
- ChuckNorris89 3y ago
  I was talking from the perspective of the average user who's moving from away Windows on their 10+ year old laptop, not the developer/tinkerer focused HN userbase who always wants to be on the bleedings edge. Debian/Ubuntu stable is more than good enough for 95% of the average users, especially, on such old machines, you're better off with Ubuntu/Debian stable than bleeding edge rolling. You don't get any benefits from rolling on such old hardware for the average user but get more risks from potential issues from being on the bleeding edge. Ubuntu distros exist that take KDE to the bleeding edge but keep everything else on the sabe branch, you don't need to go rolling distro for that.
  - ekianjo 3y ago
    > potential issues from being on the bleeding edge. potential issues from the bleeding edge on 10 years old laptops ? Exceedingly rare (I have a 10 years old laptop on a bleeding edge distro)