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I love my fully battery powered ebike but I am well aware they are prohibited pretty much everywhere. When filling out the form I figured a bike is not a vehicl

I love my fully battery powered ebike but I am well aware they are prohibited pretty much everywhere. When filling out the form I figured a bike is not a vehicle because they tend to be explicitly spelled out, but ebikes are more often prohibited (though in my area, not enforced), and my overpowered ebike is illegal everywhere, but I am respectful of others and there is no enforcement.

raldi 3y ago
What about a bike that can provide thrust without pedaling, but you're not making use of that feature in the park?
- TaylorAlexander 3y ago
  Generally it is too difficult to enforce whether someone was or was not using a feature so in my area (SF Bay Area) they would just outlaw anything with a capability to do something undesired, regardless of whether it was being used. The thinking would go that if they catch someone they can point to the feature and say "you're breaking the law". No need to prove the feature was in use. Plus if you let people in with a bike with some undesired feature, people are going to end up using it and that would be what such a law would be trying to avoid.
9dev 3y ago
You made the assumption the start screen explicitly asked users to not make, that is apply their local laws to the question.
- TaylorAlexander 3y ago
  I don't see it as applying my local laws. Everywhere I have ever seen that I can recall will explicitly spell out bicycles if they are prohibited. I have never seen a prohibition on "vehicles" that included bicycles. So I applied my understanding of the word vehicle. Of course I have not seen everywhere in the world, and the whole point of the survey is that people have to apply their own perspectives in order to even make a judgement, and this is the problem of content moderation.
  - Symbiote 3y ago
    The prohibition signs of the Vienna Convention are "No vehicles" (excludes cycles) and "No motor vehicles". That also fits the English definition of a vehicle, which includes a bicycle.

raldi 3y ago

What about a bike that can provide thrust without pedaling, but you're not making use of that feature in the park?

TaylorAlexander 3y ago
Generally it is too difficult to enforce whether someone was or was not using a feature so in my area (SF Bay Area) they would just outlaw anything with a capability to do something undesired, regardless of whether it was being used. The thinking would go that if they catch someone they can point to the feature and say "you're breaking the law". No need to prove the feature was in use. Plus if you let people in with a bike with some undesired feature, people are going to end up using it and that would be what such a law would be trying to avoid.

9dev 3y ago

You made the assumption the start screen explicitly asked users to not make, that is apply their local laws to the question.

TaylorAlexander 3y ago
I don't see it as applying my local laws. Everywhere I have ever seen that I can recall will explicitly spell out bicycles if they are prohibited. I have never seen a prohibition on "vehicles" that included bicycles. So I applied my understanding of the word vehicle. Of course I have not seen everywhere in the world, and the whole point of the survey is that people have to apply their own perspectives in order to even make a judgement, and this is the problem of content moderation.
- Symbiote 3y ago
  The prohibition signs of the Vienna Convention are "No vehicles" (excludes cycles) and "No motor vehicles". That also fits the English definition of a vehicle, which includes a bicycle.