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Neither of those are definitive sources of evidence. Grant proposals that were denied and statements that the furin site could've evolved naturally or been lab
by Klinky 3y ago
Neither of those are definitive sources of evidence. Grant proposals that were denied and statements that the furin site could've evolved naturally or been lab manipulated, aren't really evidence that COVID-19 leaked from a lab.
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- colechristensen 3y agoDefinitive proof? No. Damning evidence? Yes.
- Klinky 3y agoIt's not damning evidence either.
- rekttrader 3y agoThat’s absurd.
- Klinky 3y agoNo, absurdity is citing sources that say "maybe it was, maybe it wasn't" then claiming they mean it "definitely was".
- asynchronous 3y agoI wish I had your faith.
- Klinky 3y agoI am not relying on faith, I am reading the cited sources.
- whodidntante 3y agodefinitive sources of evidence ? no statements about furin sites being evidence of a lab leak ? no But clearly enough for quite a number of people in scientific leadership positions to state publicly that any discussion of a lab leak is a conspiracy theory and to ridicule and censor anyone who thought so. In fact, these scientific leaders were so good, and so on top of things, that they were able to do the research and examine the evidence, and come up with these strong unequivocal conclusions only a few weeks after covid started to spread worldwide (feb 2020) https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30418-9/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...
- Klinky 3y agoWe agree that it's not definitive evidence. You typing a lot of words and citing another non-definitive source doesn't make it more definitive.
- kcplate 3y agoOk, so? This is inference from a bunch of connected but circumstantial evidence. Can someone explain to me what the harm is in this practice?
- Klinky 3y agoSpeculate all you want, just don't make definitive claims using non-definitive evidence.
- BasedAnon 3y agoEven if you had literal witnesses it wouldn't be 'definitive' evidence, I'm not sure why you're using this argument as if you can't make claims about things you didn't directly observe.
- Klinky 3y agoWell I don't even think there's enough evidence here to win a civil trial where the bar is lower than criminal. Don't act like you have the answer while citing sources that literally say your claim might not be what happened. Y'all just want to jump to a conclusion.
- kcplate 3y agoOk…but why is that so important to you? I guess I am trying to understand the motivation behind people who are insisting on splitting hairs to downplay or denigrate the circumstantial evidence that points toward a lab leak. I mean I can understand if there was an accidental lab leak of an engineered virus that killed millions was created in a Chinese lab with American tax dollars why those involved might want that information suppressed and to go away but why is it important to Klinky to take up that cause?