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Reddit already had this, it's called Moderation. Forums of old had it, and a set of rules to read. It's really not that hard, people just want to have their c

Reddit already had this, it's called Moderation. Forums of old had it, and a set of rules to read. It's really not that hard, people just want to have their cake (free for all conversation) and eat it too (profitable and somehow magically making everyone nice without moderation/rules)

rootusrootus 3y ago
> Reddit already had this, it's called Moderation Some smaller Reddit communities might have it, accidentally. Mostly what Reddit has is over-policing. The reason the subscriber counts are so inflated and you see so many deleted accounts in the comments is because it's so common to get banned even if you haven't done anything objectionable.
- agentgumshoe 3y ago
  Yeah that's because of the inflammatory nature of a lot of topics of late unfortunately. That's a human problem and I don't think it's fixed with 'better censorship.'. It's fixed by people creating new subreddits or just not using the ones with over-zealous mods. Or updating the sub rules to indicate which speech is being moderated more clearly so people can judge accordingly.
- malfist 3y ago
  I'm not sure what you're doing to declare "it's so common to get banned". Me, nor any of my friend group has ever been banned from a community on reddit. If you've been told by multiple communities that your actions aren't fitting for their place, perhaps the issue is with you?
  - rootusrootus 3y ago
    > perhaps the issue is with you I don't appreciate the insinuation, I generally expect more from HN. But I'll bite. I've only ever been banned once, myself. I used the words "January" and "6" in close proximity in a discussion, and it turns out it is an unwritten rule that you may not mention that date. I've had friends get banned because they posted in an unrelated subreddit that the moderators did not like. And I've seen randos banned for nothing more than observing that the moderators were reactionary. No attacking, no profanity or anything like that, just an observation and -bam-. You can see hints of the frequency by the sheer number of "[deleted]" accounts that show up in a typical large discussion. Reddit is a cesspool these days. Virtually all major subreddits are now dominated by politics, and you get banned quickly if you say something which is perceived to be against the preferred ideology of the moderator.
    - agentgumshoe 3y ago
      That is where the problems have risen, by allowing politics in discussions. There's a very good reason politics and religion were historically banned in forums and groups. It appears we need to learn the lesson again. Also, moderators are people and they're not perfect. Unfortunately allowing political discussion in also brings out political bias in the mods and it gets out of hand. Twitter on the other hand pretends we don't need moderation, but then arbitrarily bans people because something. There's no clear guidelines, no consistent behaviour and mod-by-ML is useless in the end. It's a perfect example of 'free speech' implemented by someone who has no real idea what that means.

rootusrootus 3y ago

> Reddit already had this, it's called Moderation Some smaller Reddit communities might have it, accidentally. Mostly what Reddit has is over-policing. The reason the subscriber counts are so inflated and you see so many deleted accounts in the comments is because it's so common to get banned even if you haven't done anything objectionable.

agentgumshoe 3y ago
Yeah that's because of the inflammatory nature of a lot of topics of late unfortunately. That's a human problem and I don't think it's fixed with 'better censorship.'. It's fixed by people creating new subreddits or just not using the ones with over-zealous mods. Or updating the sub rules to indicate which speech is being moderated more clearly so people can judge accordingly.
malfist 3y ago
I'm not sure what you're doing to declare "it's so common to get banned". Me, nor any of my friend group has ever been banned from a community on reddit. If you've been told by multiple communities that your actions aren't fitting for their place, perhaps the issue is with you?
- rootusrootus 3y ago
  > perhaps the issue is with you I don't appreciate the insinuation, I generally expect more from HN. But I'll bite. I've only ever been banned once, myself. I used the words "January" and "6" in close proximity in a discussion, and it turns out it is an unwritten rule that you may not mention that date. I've had friends get banned because they posted in an unrelated subreddit that the moderators did not like. And I've seen randos banned for nothing more than observing that the moderators were reactionary. No attacking, no profanity or anything like that, just an observation and -bam-. You can see hints of the frequency by the sheer number of "[deleted]" accounts that show up in a typical large discussion. Reddit is a cesspool these days. Virtually all major subreddits are now dominated by politics, and you get banned quickly if you say something which is perceived to be against the preferred ideology of the moderator.
  - agentgumshoe 3y ago
    That is where the problems have risen, by allowing politics in discussions. There's a very good reason politics and religion were historically banned in forums and groups. It appears we need to learn the lesson again. Also, moderators are people and they're not perfect. Unfortunately allowing political discussion in also brings out political bias in the mods and it gets out of hand. Twitter on the other hand pretends we don't need moderation, but then arbitrarily bans people because something. There's no clear guidelines, no consistent behaviour and mod-by-ML is useless in the end. It's a perfect example of 'free speech' implemented by someone who has no real idea what that means.