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Having been stuck on RHEL when I worked for the DoD I'm shocked there are still people out there who willingly choose to be in that ecosystem, and to a certain

Having been stuck on RHEL when I worked for the DoD I'm shocked there are still people out there who willingly choose to be in that ecosystem, and to a certain extent I've always been surprised that Fedora is widely popular and well maintained. Like I understand that it is a true statement that people like it, but what was their progression that landed them there I just don't get it. OpenSuse is even more mysterious in that way. And I say this as someone whose first distro was CentOS. That died long ago. Were there actually people who didn't migrate to Ubuntu/Debian who went from CentOS to [other stuff]? It just blows my mind Though now I'm on arch sooo... there are many paths I suppose

c00lio 3y ago
The reasons why (afaik) people use SuSE are YaST, localisation and accessibility.
- SEJeff 3y ago
  Or they work for a European company that mandates it. Outside of the desktop, yast is the first thing many sysadmins disable. Source: I once professionally managed a cluster of SLES and OES servers for delta.
  - c00lio 3y ago
    Sure. I've only ever seen small-scale setups by less experienced people use YaST. Say, windows admins that do one or two Linux servers on the side.
    - SEJeff 3y ago
      I’d agree what that. Linux folks who don’t know Linux use Yast. Linux folks that know Linux disable it. One of the first things we did was “chmod -x $(which yast2)” and disabled some of the other tooling so people didn’t run it and mess up configs we did with config management.
dylan604 3y ago
The last bare metal server that I maintained was a CentOS 7 machine (~2 years ago). Everything now is in the cloud and is currently a CentOS variant/fork/whatever in AWS Linux2. I've been in the Fedora/CentOS pipeline since around the time dirt was invented. The only other server that I've spent any time on is FreeBSD. Of course my daily driver OS X systems were based on BSD as well. I did a debian box once, but I've never used Ubuntu. Just because it makes no sense to you does not mean it does not for lots of other people. The reasons for that are probably as varied as the users themselves.
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Root_Denied 3y ago
I'm still currently using CentOS 7 in my homelab, but since EOL is next year I'm now starting to plan the next iteration that I'll use in both hardware and software. Plenty of businesses and individual were looking for exactly what CentOS (and to some degree, RH) offered - namely stability over the long term. Lots of ecosystems and infrastructure out there still based on RHEL/CentOS, and I'm predicting it will take a decade before we see a major downtrend. I will say though that anyone who isn't watching this whole thing unfold and planning to move to other systems as a result is probably in for a rude awakening at some point.
- SEJeff 3y ago
  CentOS Stream is literally the equivalent of Debian Sid. It’s a rolling release of the latest that’s deemed stable enough for RHEL. It’s not quite the same as the snapshotted version, but it’s still really good.
iepathos 3y ago
Linus Torvalds uses Fedora for his personal dev environment which alone speaks volumes about it. I tend to bounce around and mix up my personal dev machine distro every few months but have enjoyed Fedora when I've used it. Arch is great for AUR.

c00lio 3y ago

The reasons why (afaik) people use SuSE are YaST, localisation and accessibility.

SEJeff 3y ago
Or they work for a European company that mandates it. Outside of the desktop, yast is the first thing many sysadmins disable. Source: I once professionally managed a cluster of SLES and OES servers for delta.
- c00lio 3y ago
  Sure. I've only ever seen small-scale setups by less experienced people use YaST. Say, windows admins that do one or two Linux servers on the side.
  - SEJeff 3y ago
    I’d agree what that. Linux folks who don’t know Linux use Yast. Linux folks that know Linux disable it. One of the first things we did was “chmod -x $(which yast2)” and disabled some of the other tooling so people didn’t run it and mess up configs we did with config management.

dylan604 3y ago

The last bare metal server that I maintained was a CentOS 7 machine (~2 years ago). Everything now is in the cloud and is currently a CentOS variant/fork/whatever in AWS Linux2. I've been in the Fedora/CentOS pipeline since around the time dirt was invented. The only other server that I've spent any time on is FreeBSD. Of course my daily driver OS X systems were based on BSD as well. I did a debian box once, but I've never used Ubuntu. Just because it makes no sense to you does not mean it does not for lots of other people. The reasons for that are probably as varied as the users themselves.

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Root_Denied 3y ago

I'm still currently using CentOS 7 in my homelab, but since EOL is next year I'm now starting to plan the next iteration that I'll use in both hardware and software. Plenty of businesses and individual were looking for exactly what CentOS (and to some degree, RH) offered - namely stability over the long term. Lots of ecosystems and infrastructure out there still based on RHEL/CentOS, and I'm predicting it will take a decade before we see a major downtrend. I will say though that anyone who isn't watching this whole thing unfold and planning to move to other systems as a result is probably in for a rude awakening at some point.

SEJeff 3y ago
CentOS Stream is literally the equivalent of Debian Sid. It’s a rolling release of the latest that’s deemed stable enough for RHEL. It’s not quite the same as the snapshotted version, but it’s still really good.

iepathos 3y ago

Linus Torvalds uses Fedora for his personal dev environment which alone speaks volumes about it. I tend to bounce around and mix up my personal dev machine distro every few months but have enjoyed Fedora when I've used it. Arch is great for AUR.