I'm just gonna think outloud here, stream of consciousness style, cuz I think this is an interesting debate, and I've reached the end of my usefulness for the d

I'm just gonna think outloud here, stream of consciousness style, cuz I think this is an interesting debate, and I've reached the end of my usefulness for the day. Here goes: I believe there are several degrees to which "adapting the world to oneself" could apply. You're clearly state an example where one goes too far, but at that point, is the person changed from anti-authoritarian, to THE authoritarian? In general, I see what you are getting at, but I think you are taking parts too literally. Or, at least the way I see it, "kites rise against the wind" is the kind of mentality. Another possible answer to your question: Who is defining progress? Did Hitler "make progress"? Not in our eyes, not it today's society, but would a German from the 30's tell you that? He certainly changed the world, I think we can hold that to fact. I'm just going to spew another quote, cuz my brain just leaks inspirational bumper stickers... "Those crazy enough to think they can change the world, are often those who do."