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Basically anyone who can do this kind of thing falls into INFP or INFJ in Myers-Briggs. They're just incredible at reading people. Based on the article I'd be s

by cm2012 3y ago

Basically anyone who can do this kind of thing falls into INFP or INFJ in Myers-Briggs. They're just incredible at reading people. Based on the article I'd be shocked if Jessica wasn't an INFP.

scarnz 3y ago
Fascinating. I've never heard this about INFP/F types, though I am one. Can you describe more about your experiences or point me to some examples?
- cm2012 3y ago
  There's a lot of sources out there on this topic, but Psychology Junkie is way better than I would have expected from the name. Two articles that mention these traits: INFJ: https://www.psychologyjunkie.com/understanding-infj-intuition/ https://www.psychologyjunkie.com/understanding-infj-intuitio... INFP: https://www.psychologyjunkie.com/the-infp/ https://www.psychologyjunkie.com/the-infp/
  - scarnz 3y ago
    Thanks, I appreciate the links. I happen to be in a new leadership role and in the middle of a hiring decision.
- vladd 3y ago
  https://www.16personalities.com/personality-types https://www.16personalities.com/personality-types is a pretty good (and free) resource to get started in this field.
choppaface 3y ago
False. First, one person’s Myers-Briggs score can drift over time. Any of those letters can flip; being an “empath” is learnable. Second, people like Jessica and other evaluators do a lot (both reported and unreported) to set and move the goalposts that define success. What this article and discussion shows is less of a “some people are magic” phenomenon and more of a “a lot of evaluators and leaders have huge blindspots” phenomenon. Most all panels bias towards false negatives; there’s a lot of support for having too narrow a perspective on any given candidate.
neilv 3y ago
I've tested as INFP and INTJ. I'm not going to deny the Introvert theory part. The rest of it, I don't know how seriously to take it. I haven't studied the academic literature, and the occasional pop-psych writing about it bears some similarities to astrology writing (e.g., appeal to being special, being deep, having powers, navel-gazing, etc.).
- cm2012 3y ago
  If you're not sure about the tests, you can use this quick framework in this comment to help you find your letters. Extraverted (E) vs Introverted (I) “E” generally means gaining energy from other people, while “I” means people drain your batteries. This one is not always immediately obvious for people. In general "E"s talk more when with groups of people and "I"s think more. Even though I spend a lot of time at home with my wife, I'm an E - I get energy from social interactions. Sensing (S) vs Intuiting (N) This is about how you process new information. S people see what's actually in front of them - they think and talk more in specifics. In general, S types are better at detail oriented work. N types intuit things, so they sometimes aren't great at focusing at what's in front of them, but are great at coming up with ideas and next steps based on what they see. Feeling (F) vs Thinking (T) Everyone feels and everyone thinks. A good way to judge this is people's reactions to situations. Feelers react with empathy first, thinkers react with problem solving first. Very basic example: Your friend comes in with their arm bleeding. Is your very first reaction? "Oh no! What happened?" - Feeler "You should go to the hospital!" or "Let me get something to wrap that", etc etc. In general feelers are more likely to feel empathy for someone, even if they they think they are dead wrong or disagree with them. Judging (J) vs Perceiving (P) This is about how you make decisions. And it has nothing to do with the dictionary definitions of judging and perceiving. Some defining traits of Js: Achieving the goal is more important than the process. You are comfortable making decisions with limited information. For Ps: Being true to your moral system is more important than achieving the goal. You prefer to collect more information before making decisions. The side effect of these two things means Js tend to have steadier lives with more commitment, while Ps tend to have a broader range of experiences and a bigger variety of life experiences. --- Lastly, the temperaments: ExxJ - Organizes people IxxJ - Keeps systems running, also good at absorbing and teaching information. ExxP - Collectors of experiences, achievements, pleasures, etc. IxxP - Being true to your convictions --- Now, people who study function stacks are going to shit on this comment, saying the letters don't mean anything, its all about functions like Extraverted Thinking, etc. But I find these letter rules make a great shortcut for 97% of people.
shrimpx 3y ago
Meyers Briggs is good conversation fodder, but otherwise it's on the same legitimacy plane as astrology.

by cm2012 3y ago

Basically anyone who can do this kind of thing falls into INFP or INFJ in Myers-Briggs. They're just incredible at reading people. Based on the article I'd be shocked if Jessica wasn't an INFP.

scarnz 3y ago

Fascinating. I've never heard this about INFP/F types, though I am one. Can you describe more about your experiences or point me to some examples?

cm2012 3y ago
There's a lot of sources out there on this topic, but Psychology Junkie is way better than I would have expected from the name. Two articles that mention these traits: INFJ: https://www.psychologyjunkie.com/understanding-infj-intuition/ https://www.psychologyjunkie.com/understanding-infj-intuitio... INFP: https://www.psychologyjunkie.com/the-infp/ https://www.psychologyjunkie.com/the-infp/
- scarnz 3y ago
  Thanks, I appreciate the links. I happen to be in a new leadership role and in the middle of a hiring decision.
vladd 3y ago
https://www.16personalities.com/personality-types https://www.16personalities.com/personality-types is a pretty good (and free) resource to get started in this field.

choppaface 3y ago

False. First, one person’s Myers-Briggs score can drift over time. Any of those letters can flip; being an “empath” is learnable. Second, people like Jessica and other evaluators do a lot (both reported and unreported) to set and move the goalposts that define success. What this article and discussion shows is less of a “some people are magic” phenomenon and more of a “a lot of evaluators and leaders have huge blindspots” phenomenon. Most all panels bias towards false negatives; there’s a lot of support for having too narrow a perspective on any given candidate.

neilv 3y ago

I've tested as INFP and INTJ. I'm not going to deny the Introvert theory part. The rest of it, I don't know how seriously to take it. I haven't studied the academic literature, and the occasional pop-psych writing about it bears some similarities to astrology writing (e.g., appeal to being special, being deep, having powers, navel-gazing, etc.).

cm2012 3y ago
If you're not sure about the tests, you can use this quick framework in this comment to help you find your letters. Extraverted (E) vs Introverted (I) “E” generally means gaining energy from other people, while “I” means people drain your batteries. This one is not always immediately obvious for people. In general "E"s talk more when with groups of people and "I"s think more. Even though I spend a lot of time at home with my wife, I'm an E - I get energy from social interactions. Sensing (S) vs Intuiting (N) This is about how you process new information. S people see what's actually in front of them - they think and talk more in specifics. In general, S types are better at detail oriented work. N types intuit things, so they sometimes aren't great at focusing at what's in front of them, but are great at coming up with ideas and next steps based on what they see. Feeling (F) vs Thinking (T) Everyone feels and everyone thinks. A good way to judge this is people's reactions to situations. Feelers react with empathy first, thinkers react with problem solving first. Very basic example: Your friend comes in with their arm bleeding. Is your very first reaction? "Oh no! What happened?" - Feeler "You should go to the hospital!" or "Let me get something to wrap that", etc etc. In general feelers are more likely to feel empathy for someone, even if they they think they are dead wrong or disagree with them. Judging (J) vs Perceiving (P) This is about how you make decisions. And it has nothing to do with the dictionary definitions of judging and perceiving. Some defining traits of Js: Achieving the goal is more important than the process. You are comfortable making decisions with limited information. For Ps: Being true to your moral system is more important than achieving the goal. You prefer to collect more information before making decisions. The side effect of these two things means Js tend to have steadier lives with more commitment, while Ps tend to have a broader range of experiences and a bigger variety of life experiences. --- Lastly, the temperaments: ExxJ - Organizes people IxxJ - Keeps systems running, also good at absorbing and teaching information. ExxP - Collectors of experiences, achievements, pleasures, etc. IxxP - Being true to your convictions --- Now, people who study function stacks are going to shit on this comment, saying the letters don't mean anything, its all about functions like Extraverted Thinking, etc. But I find these letter rules make a great shortcut for 97% of people.

shrimpx 3y ago

Meyers Briggs is good conversation fodder, but otherwise it's on the same legitimacy plane as astrology.