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This is honestly infuriating. Why wouldn't you realize that all of the characteristics of Jessica are why women are pushed out of the start-up world from the ve

This is honestly infuriating. Why wouldn't you realize that all of the characteristics of Jessica are why women are pushed out of the start-up world from the very first day they start? Why wouldn't you realize from this experience that women are the ones providing all the reasons and ideas for why a startup might be successful, but then are swept under the rug as a wife/family member/outside consultant/etc?

eastbound 3y ago
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- carlysagan 3y ago
  It sounds to me like you are admitting that women often provide the crucial ideas and then are dis-credited. What direction would any work take without the initial idea? Lol. Even when a female has the idea and does all the work (ah-hem), a man will come along, steal the idea, claim it as his own, and suddenly be the one with a multi-million dollar seed deal or Nobel Prize or whatever. That is the reality that I have seen over and over.
  - eastbound 3y ago
    You have a selective vision of the world if that is your conclusion. Plenty of examples of the opposite, I can’t convince you with just one example, so you’ll have to take a friendlier look at men, and once you find the pattern where men aren’t recognized for a particular deed, you’ll find it everywhere and in as great quantity as women. Concerning Marie Curie, maybe if we could agree on another example than one 120 years ago, that would revive the proof. As far as I’m concerned, every time someone cites Marie Curie, it rather confirms that we haven’t been doing that for the last 120 years, otherwise you’d cite a contemporary example. But the problem of contemporary examples, is that we’re here to analyze them, and they don’t generally hold the scrutinity. I don’t know for Marie Curie, I wasn’t there.
- bell-cot 3y ago
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- doctormanhatten 3y ago
  Honestly this seems likes a horrifically sexist piece of commentary.
- jedberg 3y ago
  > By comparison, I’ve always succeeded on humility. Are you the most humble person you know?
bell-cot 3y ago
Yes, but let me suggest: sed 's/women/everybody who does not come across as an extroverted, eloquent, assertive, attractive white(-ish) male (of the correct age, social class, educational background, etc.)/g' Humans are, sadly, extremely good at twisting things to allocate most of the power, wealth, opportunities, rights, and credit to a small subset of the population - which they either are a member of, or closely identify with. It's not merely a sexism thing.
shadowgovt 3y ago
People don't know what they don't know.
upsidesinclude 3y ago
You should downvote your own comment so that the comments which promote her work and career are above yours. The article mentions specifically in the note about backlash and vitriol that feminists need to give room for someone like her to 'exist' in the public eye. There is also the important fact that this was written by her husband and founding partner.

eastbound 3y ago

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carlysagan 3y ago
It sounds to me like you are admitting that women often provide the crucial ideas and then are dis-credited. What direction would any work take without the initial idea? Lol. Even when a female has the idea and does all the work (ah-hem), a man will come along, steal the idea, claim it as his own, and suddenly be the one with a multi-million dollar seed deal or Nobel Prize or whatever. That is the reality that I have seen over and over.
- eastbound 3y ago
  You have a selective vision of the world if that is your conclusion. Plenty of examples of the opposite, I can’t convince you with just one example, so you’ll have to take a friendlier look at men, and once you find the pattern where men aren’t recognized for a particular deed, you’ll find it everywhere and in as great quantity as women. Concerning Marie Curie, maybe if we could agree on another example than one 120 years ago, that would revive the proof. As far as I’m concerned, every time someone cites Marie Curie, it rather confirms that we haven’t been doing that for the last 120 years, otherwise you’d cite a contemporary example. But the problem of contemporary examples, is that we’re here to analyze them, and they don’t generally hold the scrutinity. I don’t know for Marie Curie, I wasn’t there.
bell-cot 3y ago
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doctormanhatten 3y ago
Honestly this seems likes a horrifically sexist piece of commentary.
jedberg 3y ago
> By comparison, I’ve always succeeded on humility. Are you the most humble person you know?

bell-cot 3y ago

Yes, but let me suggest: sed 's/women/everybody who does not come across as an extroverted, eloquent, assertive, attractive white(-ish) male (of the correct age, social class, educational background, etc.)/g' Humans are, sadly, extremely good at twisting things to allocate most of the power, wealth, opportunities, rights, and credit to a small subset of the population - which they either are a member of, or closely identify with. It's not merely a sexism thing.

shadowgovt 3y ago

People don't know what they don't know.

upsidesinclude 3y ago

You should downvote your own comment so that the comments which promote her work and career are above yours. The article mentions specifically in the note about backlash and vitriol that feminists need to give room for someone like her to 'exist' in the public eye. There is also the important fact that this was written by her husband and founding partner.