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The term bloat (as it applies to software) is rooted in gamer-think that has no basis in reality and sends a strong signal of lack of understanding. It's remini

The term bloat (as it applies to software) is rooted in gamer-think that has no basis in reality and sends a strong signal of lack of understanding. It's reminiscent of the days of 'BlackViper' and disabling Windows Services -- again, another gamer lack of knowledge issue.

raggi 3y ago
Empty notepad, just started. 82,416K working set in main memory. 25.7MB in dedicated GPU memory. 59 threads. 2 billion cycles spent since launch. Two threads in !OpenAdatper12 spending ~1.5M cycles per second. Two threads in !recalloc spending ~256K cycles per second. As shipped, this is no longer a single executable, it is a collection of 230 files, totaling 10.5MB, about half of which are bytewise duplicates, and another significant chunk have overlapping responsibilities, between the icon fonts and png icons. "Software bloat is a process whereby successive versions of a computer program become perceptibly slower, use more memory, disk space or processing power, or have higher hardware requirements than the previous version, while making only dubious user-perceptible improvements or suffering from feature creep." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bloat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bloat I'm not aware of any substantial new features. It uses a new renderer, but this does not produce a significant observable difference from the previous one beyond using more memory. It supports dark mode.
- MikusR 3y ago
  Also full unicode support on high resolution screen.
- nullindividual 3y ago
  New renderer, dark mode, auto save, resume on open, HiDPI, tabs, and I'm sure a lot of things I'm forgetting. Don't forget what Notepad.exe truly is -- a testbed for new technologies. It's not "just a text editor" to Microsoft.
JohnFen 3y ago
I'm no gamer, and "bloat" has been a term used in the industry from well before "gamers" (in the sense used today) existed. It's been a term of art for over 30 years. It also describes a very real thing. While there are a lot of things that everyone would agree counts as "bloat", there are also areas of disagreement in the form of "one person's bloat is another's essential feature".

raggi 3y ago

Empty notepad, just started. 82,416K working set in main memory. 25.7MB in dedicated GPU memory. 59 threads. 2 billion cycles spent since launch. Two threads in !OpenAdatper12 spending ~1.5M cycles per second. Two threads in !recalloc spending ~256K cycles per second. As shipped, this is no longer a single executable, it is a collection of 230 files, totaling 10.5MB, about half of which are bytewise duplicates, and another significant chunk have overlapping responsibilities, between the icon fonts and png icons. "Software bloat is a process whereby successive versions of a computer program become perceptibly slower, use more memory, disk space or processing power, or have higher hardware requirements than the previous version, while making only dubious user-perceptible improvements or suffering from feature creep." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bloat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bloat I'm not aware of any substantial new features. It uses a new renderer, but this does not produce a significant observable difference from the previous one beyond using more memory. It supports dark mode.

MikusR 3y ago
Also full unicode support on high resolution screen.
nullindividual 3y ago
New renderer, dark mode, auto save, resume on open, HiDPI, tabs, and I'm sure a lot of things I'm forgetting. Don't forget what Notepad.exe truly is -- a testbed for new technologies. It's not "just a text editor" to Microsoft.

JohnFen 3y ago

I'm no gamer, and "bloat" has been a term used in the industry from well before "gamers" (in the sense used today) existed. It's been a term of art for over 30 years. It also describes a very real thing. While there are a lot of things that everyone would agree counts as "bloat", there are also areas of disagreement in the form of "one person's bloat is another's essential feature".