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I think Obsidian's "live preview" editing mode is a great counterpoint to this. I'm pretty sure it's the first WYSIWYG editor I've ever used, in 30-odd years of

I think Obsidian's "live preview" editing mode is a great counterpoint to this. I'm pretty sure it's the first WYSIWYG editor I've ever used, in 30-odd years of computing, that hasn't pissed me off. You type markdown, and as you go along, it renders the markdown into its presentation style: italics are italicized, links turn blue and underlined and clickable, lists become lists, and so on. And so there certainly is a visual difference between "plain text" markdown and "rendered" markdown, but behind-the-scenes you still have a markup language that is less awful than all the other markup languages.

111111IIIIIII 3y ago
It's the only good thing about Obsidian that doesn't require dependency on some random git repo ("extension").
arek_nawo 3y ago
I'm a bit confused about that. I have heard of but haven't really tried Obsidian. How does what you're describing differs from so-called "Markdown shortcuts" (implemented in my editor and other popular ones like Notion)? You can type in most inline markdown and it's automatically converted to WYSIWYG-styled text. All these shortcuts are described here: https://docs.vrite.io/content-editor https://docs.vrite.io/content-editor How does it differ from Obsidian? Out of curiosity.
- philomath_mn 3y ago
  I think the difference is that Obsidian is 100% backed by a folder of plaintext markdown files which can be managed/viewed/edited/versioned however you like. It's not revolutionary but I like it
  - arek_nawo 3y ago
    In this case, yeah. That's not my goal. However, if a "raw" preview in MD (or other format) is available and editable), plus maybe a Git integration then I think this could be on a compareable level. Either way, seems like I'll have to check out Obsidian.
- tedmiston 3y ago
  > How does it differ from Obsidian? Out of curiosity. I am not OP, but I am a heavy Obsidian user. Obsidian has 2 different editing modes [0]: "Live Preview" and "Source mode". Your implementation and Obsidian's Live Preview editing mode implementation are very similar at-a-glance; yours is a bit more interactive / "GUI-forward". Here's an example of what Live Preview mode looks like [1]. I'm surprised how many people here like Live Preview editing mode in Obsidian though — it drives me insane constantly shifting the bits under / around my cursor... it's very distracting. I mostly use their Source mode editing mode for that reason. That said, I did not see an equivalent of Reading view mode from Obsidian in Vrite in a few minutes of playing with it. It would be nice to see that added to prevent accidental edits when browsing a doc you don't edit to change (similar to Vim's modes). [0]: https://help.obsidian.md/Editing+and+formatting/Editing+and+previewing+Markdown https://help.obsidian.md/Editing+and+formatting/Editing+and+... [1]: https://help.obsidian.md/Live+preview+update https://help.obsidian.md/Live+preview+update

111111IIIIIII 3y ago

It's the only good thing about Obsidian that doesn't require dependency on some random git repo ("extension").

arek_nawo 3y ago

I'm a bit confused about that. I have heard of but haven't really tried Obsidian. How does what you're describing differs from so-called "Markdown shortcuts" (implemented in my editor and other popular ones like Notion)? You can type in most inline markdown and it's automatically converted to WYSIWYG-styled text. All these shortcuts are described here: https://docs.vrite.io/content-editor https://docs.vrite.io/content-editor How does it differ from Obsidian? Out of curiosity.

philomath_mn 3y ago
I think the difference is that Obsidian is 100% backed by a folder of plaintext markdown files which can be managed/viewed/edited/versioned however you like. It's not revolutionary but I like it
- arek_nawo 3y ago
  In this case, yeah. That's not my goal. However, if a "raw" preview in MD (or other format) is available and editable), plus maybe a Git integration then I think this could be on a compareable level. Either way, seems like I'll have to check out Obsidian.
tedmiston 3y ago
> How does it differ from Obsidian? Out of curiosity. I am not OP, but I am a heavy Obsidian user. Obsidian has 2 different editing modes [0]: "Live Preview" and "Source mode". Your implementation and Obsidian's Live Preview editing mode implementation are very similar at-a-glance; yours is a bit more interactive / "GUI-forward". Here's an example of what Live Preview mode looks like [1]. I'm surprised how many people here like Live Preview editing mode in Obsidian though — it drives me insane constantly shifting the bits under / around my cursor... it's very distracting. I mostly use their Source mode editing mode for that reason. That said, I did not see an equivalent of Reading view mode from Obsidian in Vrite in a few minutes of playing with it. It would be nice to see that added to prevent accidental edits when browsing a doc you don't edit to change (similar to Vim's modes). [0]: https://help.obsidian.md/Editing+and+formatting/Editing+and+previewing+Markdown https://help.obsidian.md/Editing+and+formatting/Editing+and+... [1]: https://help.obsidian.md/Live+preview+update https://help.obsidian.md/Live+preview+update