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Why so eager to end someone's career? He did a lazy/stupid thing. People do far worse things. The client may want to sue them and seek damages or something and
by emilsedgh 3y ago
Why so eager to end someone's career? He did a lazy/stupid thing. People do far worse things.
The client may want to sue them and seek damages or something and that'd be fair but I don't think their career should end. That's harsh.
- AmVess 3y agoThings like this is what causes lawyers to lose cases for their clients. Imagine being a client of a lawyer who uses ChatGPT. You lose the case and then your livelihood or worse. These twits should be disbarred, and without hesitation.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago> Imagine being a client of a lawyer who uses ChatGPT. You lose the case and then your livelihood or worse. This presupposes that the use of ChatGPT is the reason the case was lost. In this case, the judge found the mistake, called it out, and fined the lawyers for their carelessness. It doesn't necessarily follow that p1) ChatGPT was used, p2) Case was lost, c) Case would have been won if ChatGPT was not used.
- dragonwriter 3y agoNo, the use of ChatGPT is the only reason that they thought they had a colorable argument that the case could be won.
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- dragonwriter 3y ago> Things like this is what causes lawyers to lose cases for their clients. Or to waste a lot of their clients money on cases that they should have known could not be won from the outset, as is the case here.
- bell-cot 3y agoWhat they did was the professional equivalent of a surgeon thinking "I wonder what'd happen if I chopped out this thingie?", then acting on that impulse, then lying about his actions.
- emilsedgh 3y agoWith that logic all us programmer's careers should be ended due to the bugs we introduce because "they are equivalent of a surgeon thinking...". It's not equivalent to that. Nobody lost their leg over this.
- ssnistfajen 3y agoMost programmers don't have to pass through rigorous education to be professionally certified on par with lawyers or surgeons.
- diffeomorphism 3y agoNobody cares about lazy/stupid. The problem is that he lied about it again and again. Stupid mistakes are usually not career ending, fraud and cover up usually is.
- hotsauceror 3y agoBecause to do otherwise is to normalize the use of false or non-existent information, whether due to bad faith, laziness, or gross ignorance, in processes where the outcomes may affect millions of dollars, thousands of people, or individuals' lives and freedoms.
- tptacek 3y agoBecause if someone gets a minor fine, and doesn't lose their career, it's less clear why this would be fun to talk about. This is the most important dynamic in message board threads about current events.
- sgbeal 3y ago> Why so eager to end someone's career? Because certain careers, e.g. lawyers, surgeons, and law enforcement give their practitioners the ability to make or break their clients, potentially killing them or ruining them financially and/or socially. Such professions must, for reasons of social sanity, be held to higher standards than someone who's career is, e.g., writing web apps or serving coffee.
- ssnistfajen 3y agoGross negligence. Checking sources is a cornerstone of professions that are highly reliant on citing sources.