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> Who died and made you the authority on layman terms? Fair. I'm not an expert on it or anything. But I do listen to how people speak, and what they mean. Many
by krisoft 3y ago
> Who died and made you the authority on layman terms?
Fair. I'm not an expert on it or anything. But I do listen to how people speak, and what they mean. Many people are using words loosely.
I searched on twitter for tweets with the term "drowned". Scrolled through a few hundred, and filtered out the ones which were talking about the Titan incident and which said or implied that the people on-board "drowned". I found 5 such tweets. This is of course not an exhaustive sample, but is what I have now.
Here are the five tweets (please don't harass any of these people, also I'm not endorsing these tweets in any way)
- https://twitter.com/OfSymbols/status/1671581923825668098 https://twitter.com/OfSymbols/status/1671581923825668098
- https://twitter.com/samphiresprite/status/1671965938558574593 https://twitter.com/samphiresprite/status/167196593855857459...
- https://twitter.com/Devin_Young_/status/1671237153446035456 https://twitter.com/Devin_Young_/status/1671237153446035456
- https://twitter.com/NagaSlateTTV/status/1672006200538570752 https://twitter.com/NagaSlateTTV/status/1672006200538570752
- https://twitter.com/martinvars/status/1671994282478010368 https://twitter.com/martinvars/status/1671994282478010368
Do read them. Do you have the impression that these people considered the failure modes of a submersible and concluded that the people on-board died due to a slow leak filling up the cabin and their lungs filling up with water? Or it is more likely that they use the word "drowned" as a loose shorthand for "died under water / died due to the sea"?
I think they more likely did the second. Either never considered how one dies on a submarine, or they were writing without care for exactitude. In fact I have evidence for this second one in one of these cases. Devin_Young_ who claims to be a veteran submariner and he was called out[1] in a later tweet for the implications of the term "drowned".
His answer was "I used “drowned” loosely. You are correct; it would be violent, and instantaneous.".
Also NagaSlateTTV used the hastag "implosion" right after calling those lost "drowned". Which to me implies that they are using the term in a more general way, rather than precisely per the definition.
1: https://twitter.com/Devin_Young_/status/1671267529392783360 https://twitter.com/Devin_Young_/status/1671267529392783360