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The meat still comes from animals. It does not satisfy the constraints of veganism.
by randomdata 3y ago
The meat still comes from animals. It does not satisfy the constraints of veganism.
- hospitalJail 3y agoThrow me into whatever category we want to call this. If 1 animal dies and all of humanity can stop eating meat, I'm happy to do that. Heck I'd sacrifice myself for such a value. But it sounds like this is a ~1 time prick of an animal, who could be sedated, and after that, you don't need the animal again. I want to be vegan because of cruelty, but not eating meat because it came from a pricked animal 1 time in history sounds like a religion. EDIT: Someone said this, which makes me think its not vegan at all, even with my definition. (Although this would probably put pro-choice vegans in a dilemma) >for all mammalian eukaryotic cells ie cow , chicken ,human etc require growth media that contains FBS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_bovine_serum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_bovine_serum this extracted from the foetus of cattle, otherwise the cells cannot survive outside of the a live mammal. it is not vegan or vegetarian in the slightest
- randomdata 3y ago> If 1 animal dies and all of humanity can stop eating meat, I'm happy to do that. You still need resources to grow the meat, and many animals will be harmed and killed in the process of extracting those resources. Probably many more animals than would be harmed using traditional meat raising practices as when humans extract resources we like to strip things bare. Other animals tend to be a lot gentler on habitats. Of course, if you are only concerned about cute, domesticated animals then you may find success here.
- faangsticle 3y agoI guess you don't use electricity either because of logging and coal mining. What about the internet and all those resources needed for the data centra?
- randomdata 3y agoThose who abstain from activities that are cruel to animals avoid those things, indeed. Of course we won't hear from them here, for obvious reasons.
- faangsticle 3y agoRight, so obviously you're not one of them. No need to virtue signal.
- randomdata 3y agoNobody here is. There is no possibility to virtue signal in this case as the audience will never see it. Sorry that I let out your little secret that animals are harmed in the process of resource extraction. I don't think it was ever much of a secret, though.
- seneca 3y ago> You still need resources to grow the meat, and many animals will be harmed and killed in the process of extracting those resources. This is an absurd stretch of the definition of veganism. If this were accepted, you couldn't call anyone living in any basic form of civilization vegan. It stretches the idea to a point of being useless. No homes allowed, since their material extraction and the construction process harms animals. No bicycles, those factories harmed animals in being constructed. Even Jaina live in buildings.
- randomdata 3y agoVeganism very well may be absurd, but well beyond the discussion taking place. Is there some reason for this tangent?
- KeplerBoy 3y agoDoes it come from animals or merely from cells similar to those found in animals? I wonder what the popular opinion among vegans will be. I certainly don't think it's as clear cut. Or maybe the term veganism will fall out of favor in exchange for something like cruelty free.
- gwill 3y agoper the article: "making cultured or lab-grown meat starts with extracting cells from an animal’s tissue, be it a pig, cow, chicken, fish, or any other animal that humans deem to be delicious. The cell extraction doesn’t kill or harm the animal."