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I'm following lab grown meat with optimism but I really hope they are required to label it as such.
by nightski 3y ago
I'm following lab grown meat with optimism but I really hope they are required to label it as such.
- hospitalJail 3y agoAt the current time, the label is positive marketing. I'd love to have cruelty free meat.
- randomdata 3y agoCertainly not cruelty free. Arguably less cruel. The extraction of the resources needed to grow the meat shifts a lot of the cruelty to wild animals, not to mention that you still need barnyard animals involved in the process, but the technology is quite neat so it is definitely positive marketing on that end. Being still less efficient to produce, that marketing will also be necessary to compel the buyer to pay more.
- hospitalJail 3y agoWhen you say extraction, what specifically? Energy? Any specific non-energy resources?
- randomdata 3y agoThe meat needs to feed on vitamins and minerals. It is real meat at the end of the day.
- coolradmab 3y agofor all mammalian eukaryotic cells ie cow , chicken ,human etc require growth media that contains FBS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_bovine_serum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_bovine_serum this extracted from the foetus of cattle, otherwise the cells cannot survive outside of the a live mammal. it is not vegan or vegetarian in the slightest
- hospitalJail 3y agoThank you
- consilient 3y agoFBS is used because it's versatile, whereas chemically-defined media have to be painstakingly reformulated for different cell lines. It's not a hard requirement.
- gwill 3y agowould taking a tissue sample be considered cruelty if they claim it doesn't harm the animal? the article doesn't mention wild animals as well. or do you mean by "extraction of resources" the energy costs of processing?
- wombat-man 3y agovegan meat!
- randomdata 3y agoThe meat still comes from animals. It does not satisfy the constraints of veganism.
- hospitalJail 3y agoThrow me into whatever category we want to call this. If 1 animal dies and all of humanity can stop eating meat, I'm happy to do that. Heck I'd sacrifice myself for such a value. But it sounds like this is a ~1 time prick of an animal, who could be sedated, and after that, you don't need the animal again. I want to be vegan because of cruelty, but not eating meat because it came from a pricked animal 1 time in history sounds like a religion. EDIT: Someone said this, which makes me think its not vegan at all, even with my definition. (Although this would probably put pro-choice vegans in a dilemma) >for all mammalian eukaryotic cells ie cow , chicken ,human etc require growth media that contains FBS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_bovine_serum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_bovine_serum this extracted from the foetus of cattle, otherwise the cells cannot survive outside of the a live mammal. it is not vegan or vegetarian in the slightest
- randomdata 3y ago> If 1 animal dies and all of humanity can stop eating meat, I'm happy to do that. You still need resources to grow the meat, and many animals will be harmed and killed in the process of extracting those resources. Probably many more animals than would be harmed using traditional meat raising practices as when humans extract resources we like to strip things bare. Other animals tend to be a lot gentler on habitats. Of course, if you are only concerned about cute, domesticated animals then you may find success here.
- faangsticle 3y agoI guess you don't use electricity either because of logging and coal mining. What about the internet and all those resources needed for the data centra?
- itsoktocry 3y ago>At the current time, the label is positive marketing. In California, maybe? Has a transition to fake meat worked anywhere, commercially?
- hospitalJail 3y agoThis would be real meat. Just to be clear 'beyond meat' is a bean that is fermented. This is animal cells grown in a lab.
- itsoktocry 3y ago>This would be real meat. Ah, you're right, I was confused. Although, "real" might be questionable.
- nix0n 3y ago> This would be real meat. I'm not sure if I agree with that. It's definitely not real chicken.
- hospitalJail 3y agoIt is real animal chicken muscle. Are clones real animals?
- nix0n 3y agoI think a cloned whole chicken is a real chicken, but I don't think a part of a chicken is a real chicken.
- hospitalJail 3y agoIs a grown chicken leg, a real chicken leg?
- faangsticle 3y agoNo because it doesn't exist anywhere on a large enough scale yet.