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I think there’s a place for WYSIWYG Markdown, and actually, Markdown’s simplicity actually seems like a good opportunity to simplify WYSIWYG and make it mobile-
by pseudocomposer 3y ago
I think there’s a place for WYSIWYG Markdown, and actually, Markdown’s simplicity actually seems like a good opportunity to simplify WYSIWYG and make it mobile-friendly (this tool does not seem to be, so I’ve yet to try it…). In fact, most of us use WYSIWYG Markdown daily in apps like Slack without even thinking about it. That said, I think any general, open solution needs to offer “manual/WYSIWYG” toggles the same way we see “manual/preview” toggles on DockerHub/GitHub, ideally also maintaining cursor position. Markdown’s benefit is definitely its simplicity, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it obviates the utility of WYSIWYG editing.
- vorpalhex 3y agoI support a markdown WYSIWYG flow and it is a constant source of pain for our users. At this point I just tell our users to write markdown plain - and after a 10 minute tutorial, everyone is comfortable doing that. Slack's "markdown" is horrifically broken and one of the worst markdown experiences in existence. I believe they no longer even refer to it as markdown since they have strayed so far from the spec.
- StackOverlord 3y agoSame problem with the comment box in Reddit.
- hunter2_ 3y agoI always get a good chuckle when I see comments that get unexpectedly processed as a new ordered list. Like if replying to a 3-item comment by starting with "4. " which renders as "1. " -- for the sake of users who don't know these nuances of markdown, I wish it strayed a bit further to accommodate them. Bold, italics, links, etc. -- sure, false positives there are rare enough and the means of correcting mishaps are intuitive enough. The OL issue though... so many go uncorrected.
- chatmasta 3y ago> the worst markdown experiences in existence This title belongs to ClickUp.
- dadoomer 3y agoYou might like Joplin's approach. It's exactly what you described: you can toggle WYIWYG and plain text.
- pavo-etc 3y agoI love Obsidian's WYSIWYG implementation. It is WYSIWYG until you the cursor is touching any formatted element, at which point it reveals the Markdown that makes it appear that way e.g. h1 titles appear large, but clicking on them reveals the # at the start of the line
- pxc 3y agoHybrids like this are a nice advance over WYSIWYG imo. There's similar, partial live preview functionality in LyX and Emacs' Org mode as well, and I love those.
- specialist 3y agoSounds great. I couldn't (quickly) find any screenshots, so I might just download and try. FWIW, WordPerfect's "reveal codes" feature remains my ideal solution. Long before the advent of desktop publishing and GUIs and markup languages. Split screen horizontally, vs vertically side-by-side, with WordPerfect's own nomenclature for formatting attributes. Edit in either screen. Live cursor shown in both screens. Live updates back and forth. Heaven. I haven't used WordPerfect for decades, so my bias might just be nostalgia.
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