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> So, what would voters hope to get out of the deal? Well, if teacher total comp has been declining (health insurance getting worse without getting cheaper, an

by bamfly 3y ago

> So, what would voters hope to get out of the deal? Well, if teacher total comp has been declining (health insurance getting worse without getting cheaper, and often while getting more expensive; wages not keeping up with inflation, especially post-Covid) and the headline says "scores decline again..." (emphasis mine) I'd think, scores going back to what they were when teacher compensation was better, is what the voters might hope to get out of the deal. I think some other things might also need to change, but I don't see a path to that outcome that doesn't involve significantly higher pay. But, maybe the US doesn't need stronger public education. Maybe it's not as important to democracy as some suppose. Maybe it's not as important to having a strong developed-world economy as some suppose. We aren't the most-educated place on Earth, but it's still possible it's true that we don't need to educate our children any better than we are now.

randomdata 3y ago
> I'd think, scores going back to what they were when teacher compensation was better, is what the voters might hope to get out of the deal. What is the value proposition in seeing higher scores? It does not appear the population sees value in scores in general. I am not aware of them dumping millions into pinball to see someone reach a high score, for example. Compensation comes from trade. Someone else has to give in order from someone else to get. If you are going to give up something you hold near and dear, you are going to want something in return. How much is one really going to give up to be able to say "Look ma, a larger number!"? Is that worth an extra hour at work? One less vacation to your favourite destination? One less cup of coffee? I struggle to want to give up anything for a number, frankly. I guess I'm just not that enthralled by numbers. The are a useful tool, but just a tool in my mind.

by bamfly 3y ago

randomdata 3y ago

> I'd think, scores going back to what they were when teacher compensation was better, is what the voters might hope to get out of the deal. What is the value proposition in seeing higher scores? It does not appear the population sees value in scores in general. I am not aware of them dumping millions into pinball to see someone reach a high score, for example. Compensation comes from trade. Someone else has to give in order from someone else to get. If you are going to give up something you hold near and dear, you are going to want something in return. How much is one really going to give up to be able to say "Look ma, a larger number!"? Is that worth an extra hour at work? One less vacation to your favourite destination? One less cup of coffee? I struggle to want to give up anything for a number, frankly. I guess I'm just not that enthralled by numbers. The are a useful tool, but just a tool in my mind.