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Isn't Camereon a submersible expert as well as filmographer? With experience directly related to exploring the Titanic?

by s_dev 3y ago

flumpcakes 3y ago
Yes, I'm pretty sure he was even instrumental in designing one of the few DSVs even capable of reaching the challenger deep.
- mwbajor 3y ago
  I like james cameron, but he's another victim of "popular science". He probably had some input but I couldn't believe he was instrumental in anything when it comes to deepwater exploration. However, he's relatable to population just like Neil Degrasse Tyson or the other space people. These folks aren't explorers, they're tourists. Robert Ballard was the explorer who had to invent deep water exploration methods from scratch, his input is valid. More people will click on a link to what Cameron is saying than Ballard (who's he) and we all know thats all that matters nowadays anyway.
  - ctvo 3y ago
    What a poor take. Tyson talks about science, and works to popularize it. The better analogy here would be after a space shuttle accident they ask a former NASA astronaut for their opinion and to share their own personal experience traveling to space. From Wikipedia: In 2011, Cameron became a National Geographic explorer-in-residence.[132] In his role on March 7, 2012, he dived five miles deep to the bottom of the New Britain Trench with the Deepsea Challenger.[133] 19 days later, Cameron reached the Challenger Deep, the deepest part of the Mariana Trench.[134][135][136] He spent more than three hours exploring the ocean floor, becoming the first to accomplish the trip alone.[134][137]
    - mwbajor 3y ago
      That hardly makes him an expert on submersible construction when there are others out there albeit few, that have this experience. The parent comment was on submersible construction expertise of which Cameron has little to none. I'd agree that he has piloting expertise (and definitely unique experience ). Again, whats his naval engineering resume like? How many submersibles or submersible subsystems has he designed? The thing he does have is a good team that he probably listens to of which stockton rush did not have. He's relatable though and has strong opinions which make for more clicks.
  - 542354234235 3y ago
    >he's another victim of "popular science". What does this even mean? That if someone is popular or capable of communicating complex science in an engaging way, that is some sort of a bad thing? The fact that you included Neil Degrasse Tyson, a literal astrophysicist, as another example of a “victim” makes it sound like anyone that speaks in any way other than a vocal version of a scientific paper beneath you. >These folks aren't explorers, they're tourists. James Cameron has been designing and building diving equipment and underwater cameras since 1989, when he filmed The Abyss. He has been involved in, and oversaw, the design of the deepest submersible ever made. He and Bob Ballard have the most experience in the world of diving to the Titanic. He is one of the few people on the planet that has understanding of all aspects related to this accident. Oh, and they did interview Ballard (who’s he) and Cameron. [1] [1] https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/james-cameron-robert-ballard-react-titanic-tragedy-100319974 https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/james-cameron-robert-ballard...
    - mwbajor 3y ago
      Yea, and who's interview was more informative? The guy who was an actual explorer as his primary job and basically invented a lot of modern day deep water exploration techniques or the guy who dabbles in it but is popular with the masses?

Isn't Camereon a submersible expert as well as filmographer? With experience directly related to exploring the Titanic?

by s_dev 3y ago

Isn't Camereon a submersible expert as well as filmographer? With experience directly related to exploring the Titanic?

Yes, I'm pretty sure he was even instrumental in designing one of the few DSVs even capable of reaching the challenger deep.

mwbajor 3y ago
I like james cameron, but he's another victim of "popular science". He probably had some input but I couldn't believe he was instrumental in anything when it comes to deepwater exploration. However, he's relatable to population just like Neil Degrasse Tyson or the other space people. These folks aren't explorers, they're tourists. Robert Ballard was the explorer who had to invent deep water exploration methods from scratch, his input is valid. More people will click on a link to what Cameron is saying than Ballard (who's he) and we all know thats all that matters nowadays anyway.
- ctvo 3y ago
  What a poor take. Tyson talks about science, and works to popularize it. The better analogy here would be after a space shuttle accident they ask a former NASA astronaut for their opinion and to share their own personal experience traveling to space. From Wikipedia: In 2011, Cameron became a National Geographic explorer-in-residence.[132] In his role on March 7, 2012, he dived five miles deep to the bottom of the New Britain Trench with the Deepsea Challenger.[133] 19 days later, Cameron reached the Challenger Deep, the deepest part of the Mariana Trench.[134][135][136] He spent more than three hours exploring the ocean floor, becoming the first to accomplish the trip alone.[134][137]
  - mwbajor 3y ago
    That hardly makes him an expert on submersible construction when there are others out there albeit few, that have this experience. The parent comment was on submersible construction expertise of which Cameron has little to none. I'd agree that he has piloting expertise (and definitely unique experience ). Again, whats his naval engineering resume like? How many submersibles or submersible subsystems has he designed? The thing he does have is a good team that he probably listens to of which stockton rush did not have. He's relatable though and has strong opinions which make for more clicks.
- 542354234235 3y ago
  >he's another victim of "popular science". What does this even mean? That if someone is popular or capable of communicating complex science in an engaging way, that is some sort of a bad thing? The fact that you included Neil Degrasse Tyson, a literal astrophysicist, as another example of a “victim” makes it sound like anyone that speaks in any way other than a vocal version of a scientific paper beneath you. >These folks aren't explorers, they're tourists. James Cameron has been designing and building diving equipment and underwater cameras since 1989, when he filmed The Abyss. He has been involved in, and oversaw, the design of the deepest submersible ever made. He and Bob Ballard have the most experience in the world of diving to the Titanic. He is one of the few people on the planet that has understanding of all aspects related to this accident. Oh, and they did interview Ballard (who’s he) and Cameron. [1] [1] https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/james-cameron-robert-ballard-react-titanic-tragedy-100319974 https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/james-cameron-robert-ballard...
  - mwbajor 3y ago
    Yea, and who's interview was more informative? The guy who was an actual explorer as his primary job and basically invented a lot of modern day deep water exploration techniques or the guy who dabbles in it but is popular with the masses?