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Because of the "we good, they bad" mentality. We are saints, right?

by yesbut 3y ago

hoppery 3y ago
I should hope not, that would be depressing waste of taxpayer money. FTA the West is just significantly better at playing this game.
- yesbut 3y ago
  We are most certainly engaging in cyber attacks against states that we are antagonistic against. Here are a few of the more public operations: * Stuxnet: In 2010, the Stuxnet worm was discovered, which targeted Iran's nuclear facilities. It was widely reported that the United States and Israel were behind this cyber attack. The attack aimed to disrupt Iran's nuclear program by targeting specific control systems. Source: The New York Times - "Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran" * Regin: Regin is a sophisticated cyber espionage platform discovered in 2014. It is suspected to be a joint operation conducted by the "Five Eyes" intelligence alliance, consisting of the US, UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. Regin targeted various entities, including governments, research institutions, and telecommunications providers. Source: Symantec - "Regin: Top-tier espionage tool enables stealthy surveillance" * Flame and Duqu: Flame and Duqu were sophisticated cyber espionage tools discovered in 2012, believed to be associated with state-sponsored actors. While attribution is challenging, it has been reported that these attacks were possibly conducted by the US and its allies. The primary targets were in the Middle East, including Iran. Source: Symantec - "Flame: Questions and Answers" * Equation Group: The Equation Group, classified as an advanced persistent threat, is a highly sophisticated threat actor suspected of being tied to the Tailored Access Operations (TAO) unit of the United States National Security Agency (NSA). It was responsible for developing and deploying sophisticated malware and exploits. The group's activities spanned several years and targeted various countries worldwide. Source: Kaspersky - "Equation: The Death Star of Malware Galaxy"
gordian-not 3y ago
not saints but better
- gdy 3y ago
  Better how?
  - gordian-not 3y ago
    For example not using cyber warfare as a tool for intellectual property theft on an enormous scale and fighting such attempts Defending against unchecked aggression in europe Preventing radical islamist organizations from attacking western soil Fighting north korean attempts at nuclear blackmail and mass computer-based money stealing operations
    - Geezus_42 3y ago
      So we're better because we think we can protect ourselves from colonialism coming back home? All the things you're implying others do to us are things we have done to them or others.
      - gordian-not 3y ago
        intellectual theft? are there any western companies benefiting from economic espionage? also please explain which examples of western colonialism are you seeing now or in the past 50+ years
    - gdy 3y ago
      And what about unchecked agression in Iraq?

Because of the "we good, they bad" mentality. We are saints, right?

by yesbut 3y ago

Because of the "we good, they bad" mentality. We are saints, right?

I should hope not, that would be depressing waste of taxpayer money. FTA the West is just significantly better at playing this game.

yesbut 3y ago
We are most certainly engaging in cyber attacks against states that we are antagonistic against. Here are a few of the more public operations: * Stuxnet: In 2010, the Stuxnet worm was discovered, which targeted Iran's nuclear facilities. It was widely reported that the United States and Israel were behind this cyber attack. The attack aimed to disrupt Iran's nuclear program by targeting specific control systems. Source: The New York Times - "Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran" * Regin: Regin is a sophisticated cyber espionage platform discovered in 2014. It is suspected to be a joint operation conducted by the "Five Eyes" intelligence alliance, consisting of the US, UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. Regin targeted various entities, including governments, research institutions, and telecommunications providers. Source: Symantec - "Regin: Top-tier espionage tool enables stealthy surveillance" * Flame and Duqu: Flame and Duqu were sophisticated cyber espionage tools discovered in 2012, believed to be associated with state-sponsored actors. While attribution is challenging, it has been reported that these attacks were possibly conducted by the US and its allies. The primary targets were in the Middle East, including Iran. Source: Symantec - "Flame: Questions and Answers" * Equation Group: The Equation Group, classified as an advanced persistent threat, is a highly sophisticated threat actor suspected of being tied to the Tailored Access Operations (TAO) unit of the United States National Security Agency (NSA). It was responsible for developing and deploying sophisticated malware and exploits. The group's activities spanned several years and targeted various countries worldwide. Source: Kaspersky - "Equation: The Death Star of Malware Galaxy"

gordian-not 3y ago

not saints but better

gdy 3y ago
Better how?
- gordian-not 3y ago
  For example not using cyber warfare as a tool for intellectual property theft on an enormous scale and fighting such attempts Defending against unchecked aggression in europe Preventing radical islamist organizations from attacking western soil Fighting north korean attempts at nuclear blackmail and mass computer-based money stealing operations
  - Geezus_42 3y ago
    So we're better because we think we can protect ourselves from colonialism coming back home? All the things you're implying others do to us are things we have done to them or others.
    - gordian-not 3y ago
      intellectual theft? are there any western companies benefiting from economic espionage? also please explain which examples of western colonialism are you seeing now or in the past 50+ years
  - gdy 3y ago
    And what about unchecked agression in Iraq?