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Shouldn't those activities create patterns which are easy to detect? A million visitors and just one sale -> Something is wrong Mostly repeat customers -> Som

by TekMol 3y ago

Shouldn't those activities create patterns which are easy to detect? A million visitors and just one sale -> Something is wrong Mostly repeat customers -> Something is wrong How would a scammer bring in a steady stream of new customers?

prepend 3y ago
> How would a scammer bring in a steady stream of new customers? Spam email campaigns. Or google ad campaigns. Twitter bot spam. There’s lots of ways to get people to click on Amazon links and make money. Especially because I think Amazon gives you the 4% of anything they buy in the next 24 hours or some period. Since a large percent of humans have Amazon accounts and buy stuff pretty recently if you can just get your affiliate cookie on their browser, you could make quite a bit.
- TekMol 3y ago
  That would create exactly the obvious patterns I mentioned. Low conversion ratio and many repeat customers. With new customers I mean customers who have not bought before.
  - prepend 3y ago
    There are very few new customers for Amazon. Everyone has an account. The affiliate program is trying to drive increased purchases.
    - TekMol 3y ago
      My initial post (maybe you did not see it) was about why other retailers don't make compelling affiliate programs.
- CSMastermind 3y ago
  Why not show a box to users on the website saying, "It looks like you came from xyz, we'll pay them 4% of this sale. Is it wrong? Click here to report it."
  - prepend 3y ago
    Because that has a non-zero chance of customers exiting out of the sale. I’m guessing they measured the lost sales against fraudulent affiliates and chose fraud affiliates. People are funny and the slightest distraction might skunk the sale. Not for most, but for a few percent. I watched my grandmother purchase something online and it was revealing how much time it took and how much she struggled. Something that took 10 seconds for me took her 15 minutes. Amazon wants those sales too.
  - alvarezbjm-hn 3y ago
    It would be better to pose the question after the sale is complete, imo. Ask the costumer which partner, from a list, contributed to get him/her to decide for the product.

by TekMol 3y ago

prepend 3y ago

> How would a scammer bring in a steady stream of new customers? Spam email campaigns. Or google ad campaigns. Twitter bot spam. There’s lots of ways to get people to click on Amazon links and make money. Especially because I think Amazon gives you the 4% of anything they buy in the next 24 hours or some period. Since a large percent of humans have Amazon accounts and buy stuff pretty recently if you can just get your affiliate cookie on their browser, you could make quite a bit.

TekMol 3y ago
That would create exactly the obvious patterns I mentioned. Low conversion ratio and many repeat customers. With new customers I mean customers who have not bought before.
- prepend 3y ago
  There are very few new customers for Amazon. Everyone has an account. The affiliate program is trying to drive increased purchases.
  - TekMol 3y ago
    My initial post (maybe you did not see it) was about why other retailers don't make compelling affiliate programs.
CSMastermind 3y ago
Why not show a box to users on the website saying, "It looks like you came from xyz, we'll pay them 4% of this sale. Is it wrong? Click here to report it."
- prepend 3y ago
  Because that has a non-zero chance of customers exiting out of the sale. I’m guessing they measured the lost sales against fraudulent affiliates and chose fraud affiliates. People are funny and the slightest distraction might skunk the sale. Not for most, but for a few percent. I watched my grandmother purchase something online and it was revealing how much time it took and how much she struggled. Something that took 10 seconds for me took her 15 minutes. Amazon wants those sales too.
- alvarezbjm-hn 3y ago
  It would be better to pose the question after the sale is complete, imo. Ask the costumer which partner, from a list, contributed to get him/her to decide for the product.