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But instagram is not a bank. I understand not wanting yet another company to have my photo (which nowadays is pretty much knowing who you are) + phone number. P

by comboy 3y ago

But instagram is not a bank. I understand not wanting yet another company to have my photo (which nowadays is pretty much knowing who you are) + phone number. Plus it shouldn't require personal identification to post a photo online, especially given how easy it has became to filter out illegal content automatically.

tinus_hn 3y ago
Both sides are reasonable, a common form of spam uses hacked accounts that have grown organically, the normal way, and have then been abandoned. Because they have been used the normal way they are ranked higher than accounts created by bots. So it isn’t that strange that the account is flagged if it suddenly starts posting and the first post is some product. It’s also reasonable not to want to provide Instagram not to have too much information because after all it is Meta, however it’s debatable whether sharing a photo with a photo sharing service is too much information.
- Beldin 3y ago
  > > I might as well let them delete my account that only follows a bunch of people I know without ever looking at their pictures. > Both sides are reasonable, a common form of spam uses hacked accounts that have grown organically, the normal way, and have then been abandoned. That does not seem to be the case here. When it comes to money, sure, take caution. When it comes to a dozen-or-so followers+followees, abandoned a decade ago with hardly any posts... congratulations, your marketing efforts or network effects were successful and they're back. Now stop trying to steal their personal data under the guise of "security". If you must, feel free to make a password recovery via their emergency mail or something, but don't try to steal personal data.
  - tinus_hn 3y ago
    If you want to complain, complain about Meta abusing recovery mechanisms for spam. The rest just doesn’t work; the accounts get hacked using the recovery mechanism because the email accounts get hacked or expire and they get used for spam.
flagrant_taco 3y ago
Posting to Instagram really isn't the same as posting a photo to the internet in general though. That for-profit business is running the software, hosting the servers, and writing their own terms of service, they can block what they want at that point. The real fundamental change after the dot om bubble was that the open web effectively died and was replaced with a handful of walled gardens. If you have your own site and post pictures to it there are very few that can stop you, posting to Instagram and you're effectively politely requesting a company to take rights to your photo and host or online if they would be so kind.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  This. You're putting yourself at the mercy of these companies, and they have no mercy.
jasonlotito 3y ago
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- comboy 3y ago
  Then please explain my wrongness levels. Apart from data grab, what is the issue? Could company be accountable if somebody logged in with correct username and password and posted legal pictures? Because if it doesn't matter if it's bank or not, my bank clearly states that it is not accountable in such scenario.

by comboy 3y ago

tinus_hn 3y ago

Both sides are reasonable, a common form of spam uses hacked accounts that have grown organically, the normal way, and have then been abandoned. Because they have been used the normal way they are ranked higher than accounts created by bots. So it isn’t that strange that the account is flagged if it suddenly starts posting and the first post is some product. It’s also reasonable not to want to provide Instagram not to have too much information because after all it is Meta, however it’s debatable whether sharing a photo with a photo sharing service is too much information.

Beldin 3y ago
> > I might as well let them delete my account that only follows a bunch of people I know without ever looking at their pictures. > Both sides are reasonable, a common form of spam uses hacked accounts that have grown organically, the normal way, and have then been abandoned. That does not seem to be the case here. When it comes to money, sure, take caution. When it comes to a dozen-or-so followers+followees, abandoned a decade ago with hardly any posts... congratulations, your marketing efforts or network effects were successful and they're back. Now stop trying to steal their personal data under the guise of "security". If you must, feel free to make a password recovery via their emergency mail or something, but don't try to steal personal data.
- tinus_hn 3y ago
  If you want to complain, complain about Meta abusing recovery mechanisms for spam. The rest just doesn’t work; the accounts get hacked using the recovery mechanism because the email accounts get hacked or expire and they get used for spam.

flagrant_taco 3y ago

Posting to Instagram really isn't the same as posting a photo to the internet in general though. That for-profit business is running the software, hosting the servers, and writing their own terms of service, they can block what they want at that point. The real fundamental change after the dot om bubble was that the open web effectively died and was replaced with a handful of walled gardens. If you have your own site and post pictures to it there are very few that can stop you, posting to Instagram and you're effectively politely requesting a company to take rights to your photo and host or online if they would be so kind.

JohnFen 3y ago
This. You're putting yourself at the mercy of these companies, and they have no mercy.

jasonlotito 3y ago

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comboy 3y ago
Then please explain my wrongness levels. Apart from data grab, what is the issue? Could company be accountable if somebody logged in with correct username and password and posted legal pictures? Because if it doesn't matter if it's bank or not, my bank clearly states that it is not accountable in such scenario.