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Maybe one could build an apparatus made of a bunch of narrow expanding tubes that pierced the organ without really damaging it then carried coolant to freeze th

Maybe one could build an apparatus made of a bunch of narrow expanding tubes that pierced the organ without really damaging it then carried coolant to freeze the organ quickly. Could heat it back up quickly via frozen-in-place the tubes as well. Wonder if this has been attempted before

computerphage 3y ago
Good news! Your organs are already irrigated by your circulatory system
- burnished 3y ago
  What do you reckon, tamper with the existing fluid, maybe add some heat pipes into the existing large passageways? Not sure if they have the right shape for the kind of temperature change being discussed.
  - AstralStorm 3y ago
    The other thing would be how to remove this later on and not kill whoever got the transplant with this infusion.
    - burnished 3y ago
      That part I imagine would probably be the easy bit - just wash it out. Or do you mean the perforated version? I like that idea but needles so small that they don't cause significant damage does seem at cross purposes with heat wicking needles.
  - surfpel 3y ago
    Thinking of something like this? https://www.pfizer.com/news/articles/nature’s-antifreeze-holds-answer-preserving-human-organs https://www.pfizer.com/news/articles/nature’s-antifreeze-hol...
    - burnished 3y ago
      Yessir!
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- geokon 3y ago
  But doesn't the loop-back happens in capillaries - which are biologically mediated? Totally outside my area of expertise, but I wouldn't expect you can pump cold fluid into arteries and it'll just come gushing out the veins
  - computerphage 3y ago
    I would love an answer to this question
  - computerphage 3y ago
    I found this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ecmOuCIoNc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ecmOuCIoNc which makes me thing that pumping cold fluids would work at least a bit.
- surfpel 3y ago
  I thought of this too but the high throughput of fluid to get fast cooling would require a pressure so high it would destroy the organ. Running micro tubes through the capillaries would require significant advances in materials science.

computerphage 3y ago

Good news! Your organs are already irrigated by your circulatory system

burnished 3y ago
What do you reckon, tamper with the existing fluid, maybe add some heat pipes into the existing large passageways? Not sure if they have the right shape for the kind of temperature change being discussed.
- AstralStorm 3y ago
  The other thing would be how to remove this later on and not kill whoever got the transplant with this infusion.
  - burnished 3y ago
    That part I imagine would probably be the easy bit - just wash it out. Or do you mean the perforated version? I like that idea but needles so small that they don't cause significant damage does seem at cross purposes with heat wicking needles.
- surfpel 3y ago
  Thinking of something like this? https://www.pfizer.com/news/articles/nature’s-antifreeze-holds-answer-preserving-human-organs https://www.pfizer.com/news/articles/nature’s-antifreeze-hol...
  - burnished 3y ago
    Yessir!
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geokon 3y ago
But doesn't the loop-back happens in capillaries - which are biologically mediated? Totally outside my area of expertise, but I wouldn't expect you can pump cold fluid into arteries and it'll just come gushing out the veins
- computerphage 3y ago
  I would love an answer to this question
- computerphage 3y ago
  I found this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ecmOuCIoNc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ecmOuCIoNc which makes me thing that pumping cold fluids would work at least a bit.
surfpel 3y ago
I thought of this too but the high throughput of fluid to get fast cooling would require a pressure so high it would destroy the organ. Running micro tubes through the capillaries would require significant advances in materials science.