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I see your point and I'm not a lawyer so maybe I'm in the wrong here but to be honest this: > The vendor can decide NOT to share the next version with you [bec

I see your point and I'm not a lawyer so maybe I'm in the wrong here but to be honest this: > The vendor can decide NOT to share the next version with you [because you shared the previous verison]. Sounds a lot like a new restriction on sharing. The threat of future action if you share something under GPL is a restriction on sharing. If someone is prevented from sharing GPL code because of some kind of contract, license or TOS how is that not a new restriction being placed on the GPL?

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unmole 3y ago
> Sounds a lot like a new restriction on sharing. The threat of future action if you share something under GPL is a restriction on sharing. It isn't. Giving you a boot disc doesn't obligate me to make future versions available to you.
- ece 3y ago
  If the boot disc has GPL code and you modify the code, the GPL applies. You would have to make your modifications available under the GPL when you distribute and allow others the same freedom you just used. It's the whole point of having the GPL. Red hat wants their fork to be different, I don't see why it should be.
  - tmottabr 3y ago
    No, there is no new restriction.. GPL say what rights you have and what Red Hat can sue you for, not what Red Hat need to give you in the future. You have the right to change and share the sources and Red Hat cannot sue you for that if you choose to do it. GPL does not say anything about Red Hat giving you access or selling you new versions. An example, lets say you buy whatever 1.0 under GPL from Red Hat, and they make the sources available. GPL say that Red Hat cannot sue you for sharing the sources to whatever 1.0, but they will not sell you whatever 2.0 if you do so, and there is nothing in GPL require then to. The restriction is not on GPL, is in your business relation with Red Hat going forward, and that does not break GPL.
    - ece 3y ago
      That seems like a terrible business idea to me, but hey, open source is more of a development model than a business model.
- onlypositive 3y ago
  I'm not saying it does. I'm saying refusing to give me future versions if I share the first one is a restriction on the first one. That's a violation of the license.
  - unmole 3y ago
    The rights granted by GPL apply to the version I gave you. It doesn't obligate me to keep giving you new versions.

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unmole 3y ago

> Sounds a lot like a new restriction on sharing. The threat of future action if you share something under GPL is a restriction on sharing. It isn't. Giving you a boot disc doesn't obligate me to make future versions available to you.

ece 3y ago
If the boot disc has GPL code and you modify the code, the GPL applies. You would have to make your modifications available under the GPL when you distribute and allow others the same freedom you just used. It's the whole point of having the GPL. Red hat wants their fork to be different, I don't see why it should be.
- tmottabr 3y ago
  No, there is no new restriction.. GPL say what rights you have and what Red Hat can sue you for, not what Red Hat need to give you in the future. You have the right to change and share the sources and Red Hat cannot sue you for that if you choose to do it. GPL does not say anything about Red Hat giving you access or selling you new versions. An example, lets say you buy whatever 1.0 under GPL from Red Hat, and they make the sources available. GPL say that Red Hat cannot sue you for sharing the sources to whatever 1.0, but they will not sell you whatever 2.0 if you do so, and there is nothing in GPL require then to. The restriction is not on GPL, is in your business relation with Red Hat going forward, and that does not break GPL.
  - ece 3y ago
    That seems like a terrible business idea to me, but hey, open source is more of a development model than a business model.
onlypositive 3y ago
I'm not saying it does. I'm saying refusing to give me future versions if I share the first one is a restriction on the first one. That's a violation of the license.
- unmole 3y ago
  The rights granted by GPL apply to the version I gave you. It doesn't obligate me to keep giving you new versions.