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Please no. As someone who doesn't use voice channels, I can't even count how many times I've accidentally joined them because I mis-clicked. And then I have to

Please no. As someone who doesn't use voice channels, I can't even count how many times I've accidentally joined them because I mis-clicked. And then I have to find the "end call" button because, of course, it's small and located away from the channel itself. It is so unbelievably annoying. The best feature Discord added recently was the ability to hide channels, so I can finally, once and for all, forget about voice channels.

falsenapkin 3y ago
I've been using Discord since 2017 and in that time I think I've literally never accidentally joined a voice channel? The app even prompts you if you're sure about joining under some circumstances. GP is right, frictionless voice channels is a killer feature. Maybe a toggleable prompt or some other feature to prevent accidentally joining can be an opt-in.
- TheBrokenRail 3y ago
  > I've been using Discord since 2017 and in that time I think I've literally never accidentally joined a voice channel? I've also been on Discord since 2017, and I've done it many times. Especially on servers which put voice channels right next to text channels. And I'm not the only one either, judging by another comment[0]. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36439417 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36439417 > The app even prompts you if you're sure about joining under some circumstances. The app is even worse! It brings a full-screen pop-up and if you haven't granted Discord microphone permissions, it will bug you, every, single, time.
  - falsenapkin 3y ago
    Maybe ask the server admins to make a voice channel category and then not only are text/voice separated/grouped but you can collapse the voice category when not using a voice channel. I really just don't see this problem, it's not even that I haven't done it but also I don't see other people doing it. To be fair though, like half the servers I'm active in organize their channels in this separated way. Anyway, I think opt-in for some kind of friction makes sense.
    - steveklabnik 3y ago
      Part of the issue here is that historically, audio channels didn't have any association with text channels, and so you'd find setups where people would pair them up and interleave them. Nowadays each audio channel has an associated text channel, making it a lot easier.
  - zelifcam 3y ago
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- amatecha 3y ago
  Yeah, it's obvious - just have a user setting: "Join voice channels without confirmation". Requiring confirmation should be the default, to prevent users from accidentally joining.
- tinus_hn 3y ago
  At least on all the commercial platforms you can now say that specific apps don’t have access to the microphone so this is a fixed problem.
sieabahlpark 3y ago
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User23 3y ago
The wonderful thing about free software is that you're free to change that behavior to something else that you like better.
wetbaby 3y ago
Any design which removes friction in an application gets my blessing. Having to long press and confirm or approve some benign action is super frustrating. Is accidentally joining a call really that bad? "Whoops" *Drop call*
- jrflowers 3y ago
  Exposing your microphone to countless strangers could in theory have worse outcomes than “woops” based off numerous factors, such as what you’re doing/talking about/listening to and how long it takes you to notice that you are broadcasting the audio of the room that you’re in.
  - wetbaby 3y ago
    I use push to talk because I'm considerate. Keep your mic muted if this is a concern. Discord makes it clear when you're in a call. I simply do not believe in adding friction because of bad users.
    - jrflowers 3y ago
      Push-to-talk is literally adding friction because of “bad users”. If everybody were “considerate” then a simple toggle wouldn’t cause any issues.
      - aerio 3y ago
        Push-to-talk is a feature, not friction, as far as I'm concerned. I refuse to use apps that only have auto-record.
        jrflowers 3y ago
        Friction is not an automatic bad thing. The fact that you have to continue pressing down the button to keep using the feature is friction to stop you from unintentionally using the feature
leke 3y ago
Yep, I wish there was a feature to hide them completely by default.
Wingy 3y ago
When someone clicks a voice channel, prompt the user to confirm that they want to join along with a “don’t ask again” option. Have this option be reconfigurable in user settings if you decide that you do want the prompt later.
throwuwu 3y ago
You just described the appropriate solution to this problem: better visual separation. You don’t need to add friction for people that like voice chats, just make it clear what you’re clicking on so you don’t have an oopsie
afarviral 3y ago
Please yes. This is the killer feature. To solve your issue all you need is an otional modal to confirm joining. The idea is that you are joining a room not having a phone call. This enables things like joining by yourself while other participants join.
afiori 3y ago
I believe they recently added that modal, in a recent installation it prompted me for confirmation before I clicked the "dont ask again" option

falsenapkin 3y ago

I've been using Discord since 2017 and in that time I think I've literally never accidentally joined a voice channel? The app even prompts you if you're sure about joining under some circumstances. GP is right, frictionless voice channels is a killer feature. Maybe a toggleable prompt or some other feature to prevent accidentally joining can be an opt-in.

TheBrokenRail 3y ago
> I've been using Discord since 2017 and in that time I think I've literally never accidentally joined a voice channel? I've also been on Discord since 2017, and I've done it many times. Especially on servers which put voice channels right next to text channels. And I'm not the only one either, judging by another comment[0]. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36439417 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36439417 > The app even prompts you if you're sure about joining under some circumstances. The app is even worse! It brings a full-screen pop-up and if you haven't granted Discord microphone permissions, it will bug you, every, single, time.
- falsenapkin 3y ago
  Maybe ask the server admins to make a voice channel category and then not only are text/voice separated/grouped but you can collapse the voice category when not using a voice channel. I really just don't see this problem, it's not even that I haven't done it but also I don't see other people doing it. To be fair though, like half the servers I'm active in organize their channels in this separated way. Anyway, I think opt-in for some kind of friction makes sense.
  - steveklabnik 3y ago
    Part of the issue here is that historically, audio channels didn't have any association with text channels, and so you'd find setups where people would pair them up and interleave them. Nowadays each audio channel has an associated text channel, making it a lot easier.
- zelifcam 3y ago
  [flagged]
amatecha 3y ago
Yeah, it's obvious - just have a user setting: "Join voice channels without confirmation". Requiring confirmation should be the default, to prevent users from accidentally joining.
tinus_hn 3y ago
At least on all the commercial platforms you can now say that specific apps don’t have access to the microphone so this is a fixed problem.

sieabahlpark 3y ago

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User23 3y ago

The wonderful thing about free software is that you're free to change that behavior to something else that you like better.

wetbaby 3y ago

Any design which removes friction in an application gets my blessing. Having to long press and confirm or approve some benign action is super frustrating. Is accidentally joining a call really that bad? "Whoops" *Drop call*

jrflowers 3y ago
Exposing your microphone to countless strangers could in theory have worse outcomes than “woops” based off numerous factors, such as what you’re doing/talking about/listening to and how long it takes you to notice that you are broadcasting the audio of the room that you’re in.
- wetbaby 3y ago
  I use push to talk because I'm considerate. Keep your mic muted if this is a concern. Discord makes it clear when you're in a call. I simply do not believe in adding friction because of bad users.
  - jrflowers 3y ago
    Push-to-talk is literally adding friction because of “bad users”. If everybody were “considerate” then a simple toggle wouldn’t cause any issues.
    - aerio 3y ago
      Push-to-talk is a feature, not friction, as far as I'm concerned. I refuse to use apps that only have auto-record.
      - jrflowers 3y ago
        Friction is not an automatic bad thing. The fact that you have to continue pressing down the button to keep using the feature is friction to stop you from unintentionally using the feature

leke 3y ago

Yep, I wish there was a feature to hide them completely by default.

Wingy 3y ago

When someone clicks a voice channel, prompt the user to confirm that they want to join along with a “don’t ask again” option. Have this option be reconfigurable in user settings if you decide that you do want the prompt later.

throwuwu 3y ago

You just described the appropriate solution to this problem: better visual separation. You don’t need to add friction for people that like voice chats, just make it clear what you’re clicking on so you don’t have an oopsie

afarviral 3y ago

Please yes. This is the killer feature. To solve your issue all you need is an otional modal to confirm joining. The idea is that you are joining a room not having a phone call. This enables things like joining by yourself while other participants join.

afiori 3y ago

I believe they recently added that modal, in a recent installation it prompted me for confirmation before I clicked the "dont ask again" option