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IPad Event Confirmed: Apple Invites Press to 'Touch' Something
- mayoff 15y agoIt doesn't have to be iPad 3. It could be iPad 2S.
- aiscott 15y agoIt's the iPad //e
- InclinedPlane 15y agoThey're ditching the iPad name, this'll be the Newton.next.
- nod 15y agoAnyone care to do an analysis of the pixel density underneath that finger?
- wmeredith 15y agoIt's a retina display.
- bwarp 15y agoIt'll be another ceremony. A parade of metal and glass. A celebration of our supposed progress. Another device for consumption. A window into a walled world. Another false need. Another life not really improved despite their insistence that it is Please at least spare a thought for those around the world who are too busy trying to stay alive on this day to worry about a new monolith to worship. I like technology, but I'm a human first.
- tvon 15y agoI think that may be a bit over-the-top...
- bwarp 15y agoPossibly, but isn't the entire carnival of Apple the same? Tell me which bit of my post was not factual?
- AllenKids 15y agoWe put on a great show because we all gonna die.
- siglesias 15y agoAnother life not really improved despite their insistence that it is
- tvon 15y agoWhich bit was not factual? There isn't a single factual statement in there except in the most absurdly pedantic sense, it's all mocking hyperbole.
- booticon 15y agoI can't get behind this mindset. First off, who are you to say that these sorts of devices don't enrich people's lives? For this conversation, I'll concede that tablets are largely for consumption. At what point would it be enriching? Under your rationale, if you always think of who has it worse than you, you could never have a valid complaint. "Man, I will be so disappointed if the iPad 3 doesn't have LTE." "Don't you think about starving children in Africa?"
- ZitchDog 15y agoRetina iPad: confirmed. Also, I really doubt they are showing that iPad in landscape mode, which means that most likely the home button is gone. Not sure how I feel about that one.
- glhaynes 15y agoCould it not just be turned 180 degrees (i.e. upside down)? The iPad can be held that way. Edit: I guess in that case, there'd be a camera there, assuming it hasn't moved.
- untog 15y agoWell it could be, but why on earth would Apple would choose to show an iPad in that kind of orientation?
- bstar77 15y agoGizmodo did some investigating and determined that the icon spacing is consistent with portrait mode.
- roc 15y agoTheir article ends with: "We tried to match the portrait iPad 2 and iPad 3, but we couldn't. The spacing is wrong no matter how many icons you put on the dock. The reflection intersect the icon's edge in the wrong place no matter where you position it." And after studying my own iPad, I concur. It's definitely closer in portrait than landscape, but there are still enough differences that clearly more variables are in play. (The wallpaper has likely changed, the dock's background image has likely changed, the spacing has changed, etc.)
- fab13n 15y ago> I really doubt they are showing that iPad in landscape mode They would, if showing it in portrait mode would have spoiled a design innovation.
- roc 15y ago
- bstar77 15y agoSeems like Apple is moving away from the home button. Not sure how I feel about it, but at least it'll let my 3 year old focus a little better on the app I want him to play rather than him constantly hitting the home button and going to Shrek Kart.
- wmeredith 15y agoThe iPad's screen rotates depending on its orientation. That home row of icons could be at the bottom of any one of the iPad's 4 sides, 3 of which don't have a home button.
- ddagradi 15y agoIf Apple is getting rid of the Home button, there's a lot of complex interaction to account for: http://www.codinghorror.com/.a/6a0120a85dcdae970b0168e6814472970c-pi http://www.codinghorror.com/.a/6a0120a85dcdae970b0168e681447... Color me doubtful, though I'd love to be proven wrong. Lots of devices already do a good job with gesture-only interaction, but it requires redefining large chunks of the iOS vocabulary.
- ugh 15y agoYou are looking at it wrong. Also: You are wrong. The iPad already supports gestures. Three gestures replace all you need the home button for (one or two small and insignificant exceptions, but those would be easy enough to add). Those gestures already declutter the interaction considerably. They make for a much smoother experience than that clusterfuck which is the home button. It’s a nice fallback, so I’m not sure whether it’s a good idea to remove it, but I haven’t touched it in ages (it’s always not where I expect it to be, anyway).
- ddagradi 15y agoPart of the iPad's experience, and part of its success, is that it shares a common language with the iPhone. Removing the home button removes part of the easy transition from one device to the other. If an iPhone owner is thinking of buying a home-button-less iPad, they'll launch an app, and then stare in confusion trying to figure out how to leave it again. Eventually someone will come and explain to them that if you pinch your fingers this certain way, it will take you back to the home screen. And the experience is lessened. I love the system Apple is building. The gestures built into iOS 5 make it faster and easier for me to use everyday. But gestures are like keyboard shortcuts - they require instruction and they're not discoverable. I think having a so-called "Panic" button exist on the device is important for the way it functions for consumers (not to mention integral to Siri's interface if that makes its way to the iPad). Will it be a physical button? Maybe, maybe not. Removing the only physical button on the device requires a more fundamental change than "three gestures replace all you need the home button for" though.
- raganwald 15y ago<grouch>An announcement that the announcement is next week is of interest to hackers without being even remotely something that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.</grounch> That being said... No doubt 99% of the comments will be repeating the same speculation, leaks, and purported confirmations going around for the last month. I’m interested in the remaining 1%: How will this “change everything?” What markets could this disrupt? What (if any) new kinds of software would a retina display (for example) make possible that were non-starters on an iPad 2?
- hullo 15y agoI imagine Siri will make the cut - to the extent that the iPad is a home computer replacement device, having intelligent voice control on your principle computer is indeed a paradigm shift for the mass market.
- samstave 15y agoTotally - Wait till we have a wifi device that we can attach to things (ala X10) that will accept commands from Siri. "Siri, turn on the bedroom lights" "Siri, set the oven to 400 degrees" "Siri, put on HBO at 9:30pm tonight" "Siri, set the temp to 70 degrees" THIS is what I want. Shit - who on HN wants to work on this?
- Arelius 15y agoThe moment that Apple releases a decent Siri API is the moment I hack something to work with my existing X10 system.
- danilocampos 15y ago> <grouch>An announcement that the announcement is next week is of interest to hackers without being even remotely something that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.</grounch> I expect so much better from you, sir raganwald. This is a reply to you but it's addressed to HN's growing number of pedantic, obnoxious content police at large. At the time of this posting, 38 people disagree with your assessment. You've got the flag tool to register your opinion. What is contributed to the discussion by griping about content the community obviously believes is worthy of the front page? Who benefits from this? From a completely practical perspective, this particular post is useful because it suggests very strongly that the Retina display rumors are true. For those who are building content for iOS, the head-start on getting iPad Retina graphics ready is likely much appreciated. (It certainly is by me.)
- tomelders 15y agothe word "touch" makes me think of this... http://senseg.com/ http://senseg.com/
- orofino 15y agoI thought the same thing. There is real innovation in tablet computing available through this avenue. The current haptic feedback that some devices offer is really inadequate. To give you actual controls that you can feel would be a leap forward. Also, if you think about the way Apple typically does these things, it would be a huge advantage if they got there first. Apple has a tendency to buy years worth of production from a given vendor, if they could tie up access to this technology for a year or two while production ramps to accomodate demand, they could gain a huge lead (well, larger than they already have).
- bergie 15y agoProper haptic feedback would be huge. This might also help to explain the leaked pictures where the new iPad is thicker than iPad 2.
- tomelders 15y agoThe one thing that makes me doubt this will happen is that the senseg system uses a plastic film over the surface, and there's no way Apple are going to put plastic over glass.
- WiseWeasel 15y agoIt made me think of the South Park song: I've got something in my front pocket, for you. Why don't you reach in, and see what it is?... That said, I hope you're right and I'm wrong! : P
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- AmericanOP 15y agoApple market cap now same as entire retail sector. Thoughts? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/ibubble-apples-market-cap-now-same-entire-retail-sector-bigger-all-semis http://www.zerohedge.com/news/ibubble-apples-market-cap-now-...
- justjimmy 15y agoDid anyone else notice (or care) about the icons shown in the picture? Google Map for 'Where', Calendar for 'When', Keynote for 'How' and iPad itself for 'What'. Just missing the Apple logo for 'Who'~
- sylvinus 15y agothey usually embed little cues like this in their product announcements
- planb 15y agoThe Maps icon in the dock might be a hint that Apple is finally moving away from Google maps - though this would be a better fit for the next iPhone.
- timothya 15y agoThat matches the current icon and label for Maps on iPad.
- planb 15y agoYes, but Apple never shows the Maps icon in the dock of the iPad in PR photography.
- martingordon 15y agoYes, but I think it's more to indicate that you have to go somewhere [Maps] on Wednesday the 7th [Calendar] for a presentation [Keynote]. The "Let's Talk iPhone" invitation used the Calendar/Clock/Maps/Phone application icons to present the same concept: http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/03/apples-lets-talk-iphone-event-is-tomorrow-get-your-livebl/ http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/03/apples-lets-talk-iphone-e...
- evan_ 15y agothat would be announced along with an iOS version bump, not a hardware bump.
- morsch 15y agoSo it's settled, 300+ppi display and haptic feedback, then? That would be pretty breathtaking.
- tvon 15y agoHaptic feedback would be great but there hasn't been any evidence of the feature existing.
- dr_ 15y agowhile I look forward to a retina display iPad, I think people are reading too much into the touch portion. The event description itself does not say anything about the iPad, so the touch hint probably refers to the fact that the event is about one of their touch devices, which we presume is the next iPad.