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> I don't see an increase in 2000-2010, though? I see a jump in 2000ish, but the rest looks like noise There's a few points of improvement from '04 to '12. Th
by mlyle 3y ago
> I don't see an increase in 2000-2010, though? I see a jump in 2000ish, but the rest looks like noise
There's a few points of improvement from '04 to '12.
The funny thing here is basically all of the drop we've seen since '12-- and especially post '20-- has been in the attainment of the bottom 10th percentile. Everyone else has been pretty flat.
> So much of the "teaching to the test" rhetoric is a moot topic without clearer evidence of short term gains.
We have gains on the tests during the mid 90's to 2010 timeframe. Big gains in mathematics. But does anyone seriously believe that mathematical literacy is much better?
Of course, it all depends what you decide is important. In the past 5 years that I've been following things, even very high performing students have fallen in arithmetical capabilities. (But maybe we just don't care if they're still doing higher math? I feel like I care)
- taeric 3y agoI've seen the fall in arithmetical capabilities. But I've also seen that largely in myself. Oddly, I think credit cards and never having to make change for things is a big driver in that. To wit, you get worse at the things you don't have to regularly do. Interesting point on the differences in the percentiles. I'd hazard that speaks more to exposure? Could be bias in what I was able to see, but I know every richer person I knew was able to get their kids in a private school, often with a personal tutor, during the '20 chaos. I should say, thanks for sticking on this thread! Interesting conversation.