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> Keeping Upstart after everyone else abandoned it... False. Ubuntu switched to systemd as soon as its upstream (Debian) did. See https://www.markshuttleworth

• IntelMiner 3y ago
  Not false :) Ubuntu offered Upstart starting in 6.10 (2006) through 15.04 (2015) after Debian's (admittedly very politicized) switch to systemd forced their hand RHEL 6 (2010) included it for a single release before switching to systemd in RHEL 7 (2014) (though in balance, systemd was started by a Red Hat employee) No other distros switched to it, and the ones that offered it as an option were very second-class citizens
  • thayne 3y ago
    So, they were one year after RHEL on switching to systemd to the default (and it was available as on option before that). The first LTS version of Ubuntu released after RHEL7 had systemd as the default. I wouldn't really say that they were using it "after everyone else abandoned it". I'd characterize it more as they developed an alternative init system that never really caught on.
    • rlpb 3y ago
      Indeed. And notably, upstart came long before systemd, and with it Ubuntu was the first major (or any?) distro to solve the real problem of the non-parallelized boot speed issue for desktop users. Characterising it as "pivot and break core Linux functionality" is just outright misleading.