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The kid's father seems to bear a lot of responsibility in his son's demise. > In the days before the Titan vessel went into the ocean off the coast of Newfound

by bambax 3y ago

The kid's father seems to bear a lot of responsibility in his son's demise. > In the days before the Titan vessel went into the ocean off the coast of Newfoundland, Canada, the 19-year-old university student accompanying his father on the expedition expressed hesitation about going, his aunt said Thursday in an interview. > Azmeh Dawood — the older sister of Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood — told NBC News that her nephew, Suleman, informed a relative that he "wasn't very up for it" and felt "terrified" about the trip to explore the wreckage of the Titanic. > But the 19-year-old ended up going aboard OceanGate's 22-foot submersible because the trip fell over Father's Day weekend and he was eager to please his dad, who was passionate about the lore of the Titanic, according to Azmeh. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/titanic-submersible-shahwood-suleman-family-tragedy-rcna90678 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/titanic-submersible-shahw...

jacquesm 3y ago
Ugh, that's so sad. Dying to please your old man. He seems to have had the best intuition about the safety risks involved then.
- d1str0 3y ago
  That or he still thought it was safe but was scared regardless. Even though everyone knows flying commercially is incredibly safe, lots of people are still anxious about it. Its not like this kid, or maybe any of the other customers, knew of any of the safety concerns and just thought it was as safe as flying.
  - AmericanOP 3y ago
    Flying commercial is safe. Its also good to remember the titanium wings bear the full weight of the plane.
    - bandyaboot 3y ago
      Almost the full weight. The fuselage typically contributes in the neighborhood of 10% of the lift.
    - happycube 3y ago
      50% of the wings on a 787 are carbon fiber. Which was tested far above loads before failing. When corners aren't cut building the planes, and Boeing has never cut corn... oh, crud.
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- dr_dshiv 3y ago
  Sad, maybe. Seems like one of the best ways to go. Respect.
  - bandyaboot 3y ago
    I doubt it felt like a good way to go to someone who was scared to go on the thing in the first place. Maybe it went from no indications of a problem to near instantaneous implosion in a moment, but I kind of doubt it. I’m guessing that carbon fiber was anything but silent as it approached the moment of catastrophic failure. I’d like to think they didn’t know what was about to happen, but it seems unlikely.
afavour 3y ago
This was one of the reasons I always hoped their deaths were as quick as could be. As a parent myself, the idea of looking my child in the eyes for days on end, knowing that I’d condemned them to death with my own hubris… I can’t imagine anything more miserable.

by bambax 3y ago

jacquesm 3y ago

Ugh, that's so sad. Dying to please your old man. He seems to have had the best intuition about the safety risks involved then.

d1str0 3y ago
That or he still thought it was safe but was scared regardless. Even though everyone knows flying commercially is incredibly safe, lots of people are still anxious about it. Its not like this kid, or maybe any of the other customers, knew of any of the safety concerns and just thought it was as safe as flying.
- AmericanOP 3y ago
  Flying commercial is safe. Its also good to remember the titanium wings bear the full weight of the plane.
  - bandyaboot 3y ago
    Almost the full weight. The fuselage typically contributes in the neighborhood of 10% of the lift.
  - happycube 3y ago
    50% of the wings on a 787 are carbon fiber. Which was tested far above loads before failing. When corners aren't cut building the planes, and Boeing has never cut corn... oh, crud.
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dr_dshiv 3y ago
Sad, maybe. Seems like one of the best ways to go. Respect.
- bandyaboot 3y ago
  I doubt it felt like a good way to go to someone who was scared to go on the thing in the first place. Maybe it went from no indications of a problem to near instantaneous implosion in a moment, but I kind of doubt it. I’m guessing that carbon fiber was anything but silent as it approached the moment of catastrophic failure. I’d like to think they didn’t know what was about to happen, but it seems unlikely.

afavour 3y ago

This was one of the reasons I always hoped their deaths were as quick as could be. As a parent myself, the idea of looking my child in the eyes for days on end, knowing that I’d condemned them to death with my own hubris… I can’t imagine anything more miserable.