> Have you actually had a look at what is actually included in Emacs? Yes, I've been using it for a few years and made my own plugin with a couple dozen users.

> Have you actually had a look at what is actually included in Emacs? Yes, I've been using it for a few years and made my own plugin with a couple dozen users. Then I discovered Vim overnight and never used Emacs again (literally). > But claiming that it doesn't bring anything new compared to Notepad is really strange It does indeed sound strange because you missed the "with respect to editing model" which is crucial for my point. Emacs has nothing in it other than Notepad + a large number of ad-hoc, non-coposable plugins each doing one task. > Things like rectangular cut and paste, vertically aligning stuff Ad-hoc things that do only one very specific task each. Incomparable to Kakoune's powerful and composable way of interacting with text. > infinite undo, undo restricted to the selection (region) Orthogonal to the editing model. These can be slapped on top of any text editor, be it vim or notepad. Just make a plugin.