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As a US citizen, I think about money all the time. What country do you think I should move to to escape this?

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cscurmudgeon 3y ago
Move to a country that is safe from external aggressors without help from the US while also not having these worries. That leaves a total of .... 0 countries.
- vaidhy 3y ago
  To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal - Henry Kissinger. yes, WW-3 might be right over the horizon and we all can be bombed out of extinction.. but the world has changed from middle ages.
  - cscurmudgeon 3y ago
    > To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal - Henry Kissinger. Kissinger said so, therefore it must be true. > but the world has changed from middle ages No one said the world is in the Middle Ages. But Europe always comes needing US support though.
pistolpeteDK 3y ago
If you can live with the high taxes, then scandinavia is nice. The social safety net makes money less important. Free health care is the big one. Not having to worry at all about hospital bills(ever) is a great relief.
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JohnFen 3y ago
"Money don't buy what you really need It make an ice man cry, it make a stone man bleed But when you get right down to it, no matter who you are It rules your life like a virgin queen One day you might get over it, but in the meantime It rules the world like a green machine" -- The Alan Parsons Project, "Money Talks" That truth is why I hate money.
LoganDark 3y ago
Looks like you're gonna need money to move, though.
SCUSKU 3y ago
"Wherever you go, there you are" -- While I do think you can move to a lower cost of living area, you can't outrun your relationship to money. If you have a tendency to spend on things you don't need, then you will be forced to think about money all of the time. Accepting less, living below your means, and finding happiness in non-material things could be one way to escape this. Of course, there is also the option of moving to developing countries and leveraging your financial privilege as an American, e.g. South America/South East Asia.
- themodelplumber 3y ago
  For real. Deepen your relationship with money so that it's more comfortable, nuanced, and stable. Like a relationship with an old friend. Even if you lose touch for a while, they're still there for you. Otherwise there will still be a tendency to view money in "have it / don't have it" terms, or similar lines of thought that will require not only thinking about money all the time, but doing so in a way that takes far too much personal attention and energy. A lot of people have the false belief that thinking about money too much is a sin, or an unwise mistake. But you can also look at this tendency as beginner-level money-ing. Education and deep experience / analysis of the topic really help. IMO you can also still retain happiness in material things if you develop your relation to/with them, too. For example, understanding them as symbolic totems or touchstones, or pointers toward a higher quality of life in terms of any perspectives they may symbolically suggest independent of your own established perspectives. (Once you start to do this you'll start to eat away at merchants' profit margins since your concept of worth & value will deepen, and a sort of optimization skill will set in. :-))
digitalengineer 3y ago
"I decided to take a 50% payout... and somehow I feel... happier?" American working in The Netherlands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw0gJgMhaqo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw0gJgMhaqo
fosk 3y ago
Italy, a small town in southern Italy specifically.

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Move to a country that is safe from external aggressors without help from the US while also not having these worries. That leaves a total of .... 0 countries.

vaidhy 3y ago
To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal - Henry Kissinger. yes, WW-3 might be right over the horizon and we all can be bombed out of extinction.. but the world has changed from middle ages.
- cscurmudgeon 3y ago
  > To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal - Henry Kissinger. Kissinger said so, therefore it must be true. > but the world has changed from middle ages No one said the world is in the Middle Ages. But Europe always comes needing US support though.

pistolpeteDK 3y ago

If you can live with the high taxes, then scandinavia is nice. The social safety net makes money less important. Free health care is the big one. Not having to worry at all about hospital bills(ever) is a great relief.

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JohnFen 3y ago

"Money don't buy what you really need It make an ice man cry, it make a stone man bleed But when you get right down to it, no matter who you are It rules your life like a virgin queen One day you might get over it, but in the meantime It rules the world like a green machine" -- The Alan Parsons Project, "Money Talks" That truth is why I hate money.

LoganDark 3y ago

Looks like you're gonna need money to move, though.

SCUSKU 3y ago

"Wherever you go, there you are" -- While I do think you can move to a lower cost of living area, you can't outrun your relationship to money. If you have a tendency to spend on things you don't need, then you will be forced to think about money all of the time. Accepting less, living below your means, and finding happiness in non-material things could be one way to escape this. Of course, there is also the option of moving to developing countries and leveraging your financial privilege as an American, e.g. South America/South East Asia.

themodelplumber 3y ago
For real. Deepen your relationship with money so that it's more comfortable, nuanced, and stable. Like a relationship with an old friend. Even if you lose touch for a while, they're still there for you. Otherwise there will still be a tendency to view money in "have it / don't have it" terms, or similar lines of thought that will require not only thinking about money all the time, but doing so in a way that takes far too much personal attention and energy. A lot of people have the false belief that thinking about money too much is a sin, or an unwise mistake. But you can also look at this tendency as beginner-level money-ing. Education and deep experience / analysis of the topic really help. IMO you can also still retain happiness in material things if you develop your relation to/with them, too. For example, understanding them as symbolic totems or touchstones, or pointers toward a higher quality of life in terms of any perspectives they may symbolically suggest independent of your own established perspectives. (Once you start to do this you'll start to eat away at merchants' profit margins since your concept of worth & value will deepen, and a sort of optimization skill will set in. :-))

digitalengineer 3y ago

"I decided to take a 50% payout... and somehow I feel... happier?" American working in The Netherlands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw0gJgMhaqo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw0gJgMhaqo

fosk 3y ago

Italy, a small town in southern Italy specifically.