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Seems like we're in a period of ecosystems shooting themselves in the foot, be it 'social' media, software, banking or politics. I suppose, in a way, we have g

Seems like we're in a period of ecosystems shooting themselves in the foot, be it 'social' media, software, banking or politics. I suppose, in a way, we have gotten accustomed to a relatively long period of stability. As for what RHEL thinks they are doing with this: every time a (IMO: nasty) enterprise vendor starts packaging their software in containers (IMO: a good thing!), distributions become less relevant by the day, and so does their view on software distribution.

noizejoy 3y ago
Business models break, when money is no longer almost free. Interest rates near zero created a historically rather unique environment. That’s now apparently ending.
meribold 3y ago
> Seems like we're in a period of ecosystems shooting themselves in the foot, be it 'social' media, software, banking or politics. Examples of companies besides Red Hat that have also been burning huge amounts of good will lately indeed come to mind easily: Activision Blizzard, Reddit, Netflix, …
colechristensen 3y ago
We’re in a period of unsustainably subsidized free environments being culled. People trying to monetize free things in order to continue providing free things seems to not be working all that well. The thing you do to make money and the free thing you offer probably just need to be separate for long term stability. The Linux kernel model of lots of institutions supporting an actually free project is probably the only real long term successful free model.
- oneplane 3y ago
  I suppose the linux kernel model has the benefit of having a mutual dependency so you can't really easily long-term extract value without adding value. (i.e. forking the kernel means you'll be spending a lot of time keeping up, so doing to work to upstream your stuff has a real benefit)
- izacus 3y ago
  Ironically, Red Hat is one of the biggest supporters of Linux Kernel and now needs to actually fund that support and dev time.

noizejoy 3y ago

Business models break, when money is no longer almost free. Interest rates near zero created a historically rather unique environment. That’s now apparently ending.

meribold 3y ago

> Seems like we're in a period of ecosystems shooting themselves in the foot, be it 'social' media, software, banking or politics. Examples of companies besides Red Hat that have also been burning huge amounts of good will lately indeed come to mind easily: Activision Blizzard, Reddit, Netflix, …

colechristensen 3y ago

We’re in a period of unsustainably subsidized free environments being culled. People trying to monetize free things in order to continue providing free things seems to not be working all that well. The thing you do to make money and the free thing you offer probably just need to be separate for long term stability. The Linux kernel model of lots of institutions supporting an actually free project is probably the only real long term successful free model.

oneplane 3y ago
I suppose the linux kernel model has the benefit of having a mutual dependency so you can't really easily long-term extract value without adding value. (i.e. forking the kernel means you'll be spending a lot of time keeping up, so doing to work to upstream your stuff has a real benefit)
izacus 3y ago
Ironically, Red Hat is one of the biggest supporters of Linux Kernel and now needs to actually fund that support and dev time.